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Title: If Alembic made a stomp box, what would it do?
Post by: gtrguy on April 05, 2019, 10:24:21 AM
If Alembic made a stomp box, what would it do? A tone shaper, an effects box, distortion, Stratoblaster, or? What would be the most interesting?
Title: Re: If Alembic made a stomp box, what would it do?
Post by: edwardofhuncote on April 05, 2019, 01:54:47 PM
I got a buddy over on TalkBass who took the old electronics from his Spoiler Exploiter and made them into a stand-alone effect, even rigged them up to run on a 9v power supply. Called it the "Ron-O-Tone". (he's a RIC guy...) Basically it functioned as a low-pass filter + preamp for his Rickenbacker 4004's.

(The Exploiter got new Essence type electronics, FWIW.

I don't know if it's really something Mica & Co. would want to develop and bring to market though... but if so, I'd buy one in less than a heartbeat. It'd save me having to mod a Starfire bass or two.  ;)
Title: Re: If Alembic made a stomp box, what would it do?
Post by: StephenR on April 05, 2019, 02:53:20 PM
For preamp with a low-pass filter option (and a whole lot more) to use with non-Alembic or Alembic instruments you can't do better than the SF-2. Okay, it is rack mounted not a stomp box but even if they could fit the guts of a Superfilter in a stomp box there are already options for low-pass and high-pass filtering in a stomp box format from other manufacturers which come in at a much lower price point than the SF-2 so I am not sure if the effort would be worthwhile from a marketing perspective even if the product was more robust.
Title: Re: If Alembic made a stomp box, what would it do?
Post by: rv_bass on April 05, 2019, 03:09:20 PM
Greg, plug the Starfire into a SF-2 and you’re done :)

Oops, I see Stephen kind of said that already.
Title: Re: If Alembic made a stomp box, what would it do?
Post by: elwoodblue on April 05, 2019, 03:19:16 PM
It'd have to include the starved voltage fuzz option,
...that sound  :P

Title: Re: If Alembic made a stomp box, what would it do?
Post by: hieronymous on April 05, 2019, 04:17:27 PM
I asked Mica & Ron once about the possibility of an SF-1 stomp box with expression pedal so that you could change the filter frequency while playing. I was picturing using it to have a thumpy, old-school tone while playing bass, then get a sound with more high-frequency information for soloing.

Ron asked what kind of pedal I thought would be good and I was stumped and that was as far as it got!
Title: Re: If Alembic made a stomp box, what would it do?
Post by: pauldo on April 05, 2019, 07:01:27 PM
It'd have to include the starved voltage fuzz option,
...that sound  :P



Yes! That ^^^.

Seriously.

Put me down for two... one for me and I would love to surprise my son with one.

Title: Re: If Alembic made a stomp box, what would it do?
Post by: edwardofhuncote on April 06, 2019, 06:07:21 AM
Greg, plug the Starfire into a SF-2 and you’re done :)

Oops, I see Stephen kind of said that already.


Yeah... I know that's the self-evident conclusion I'll end up with anyway, not just for the Starfires, but the other Alembics too. ;D

The Broughton LPF pedal I had made up a while back gets the [filtering] job done for now, but neither the Westerly, nor the new issue Guild Bisonics sound like Alembic pickups do... they don't sound bad. Those new Guild p'ups are pretty sweet actually, and an SF-2 would probably do some magic to it. I'm still looking forward to putting some activators in that DeArmond. Projects, projects... ::)

To the spirit of Dave's thread - it's bigger than a stompbox or pedal, but one product that was in the pipeline was this 2-channel standalone preamp in a smaller chassis. I'd love to have one. In fact, if there is a list, put me on it.  :)

http://club.alembic.com/index.php?topic=425.0

Here's my Broughton Filter pedal... like I said, it gets the job done. Was telling one of the guys in the band last week, it won't make the the Starfire sound like an Alembic, but it does make it behave like an Alembic bass does, at least in the sonic frequency spectrum. 
Title: Re: If Alembic made a stomp box, what would it do?
Post by: mavnet on April 06, 2019, 05:55:09 PM

Two more of those for me, also, please. Seems like it could be a mod for a power supply for the series basses - has anyone toyed around with that?



It'd have to include the starved voltage fuzz option,
...that sound  :P



Yes! That ^^^.

Seriously.

Put me down for two... one for me and I would love to surprise my son with one.
Title: Re: If Alembic made a stomp box, what would it do?
Post by: elwoodblue on April 06, 2019, 06:38:10 PM
 Mavnet, I'm reminded of your recent notch filter mod,
that'd be nice in a stomp box (could be named Freq-Out  ;D ).
Title: Re: If Alembic made a stomp box, what would it do?
Post by: jalevinemd on April 06, 2019, 08:26:50 PM
I've always wanted a floor version of the SF-2. I don't have a rack.
Title: Re: If Alembic made a stomp box, what would it do?
Post by: mavnet on April 07, 2019, 05:28:37 PM

Love the name!
It's a pretty cool thing, very helpful in rooms with bizarre resonances, and with backline amps that come with the venue.

Mavnet, I'm reminded of your recent notch filter mod,
that'd be nice in a stomp box (could be named Freq-Out  ;D ).
Title: Re: If Alembic made a stomp box, what would it do?
Post by: Picure on April 07, 2019, 11:46:12 PM
F1X, F2B, and SF2 in stomp box config would be awesome!
Title: Re: If Alembic made a stomp box, what would it do?
Post by: jazzyvee on April 08, 2019, 03:44:54 AM
All I would want is a footswitch option for my SF-2 so that I can preset a tone on one or both channels and switch them in and out when needed.
Title: Re: If Alembic made a stomp box, what would it do?
Post by: cozmik_cowboy on April 08, 2019, 08:18:21 AM
All I would want is a footswitch option for my SF-2 so that I can preset a tone on one or both channels and switch them in and out when needed.

Effects loop out>SF2>volume pedal>effects loop in, maybe?

Peter
Title: Re: If Alembic made a stomp box, what would it do?
Post by: mario_farufyno on April 08, 2019, 09:48:02 AM
I would like to see a versatile Fuzz (most of the classic stomps are one trick pony and don't get too well working along with active instruments) and a FX1 inspired bass friendly tube boost/drive, like having some sort of switchable extra gain stages. It would be great if Ron could figure out a lossless volume pedal, the ones I got the chance to try were all tone killers at some degree.
Title: Re: If Alembic made a stomp box, what would it do?
Post by: mario_farufyno on April 08, 2019, 09:53:05 AM
Well, I could also use some sort of guitar attenuator to help me hearing the drummer.

* yes, I'm bassist and this is a joke... (sort of) ;D
Title: Re: If Alembic made a stomp box, what would it do?
Post by: mario_farufyno on April 08, 2019, 06:21:12 PM
No, I know exactly what could be very useful and also haven't seen anyone do it yet, a parallel effect send/return pedal. Imagine using a volume pedal chassis to provide a foot controled wet/dry adjustable fx mix. Great for compression and essencial with reverb and delays. Could be even better yet with a switch to toggle the pedal between send or return mode.
Title: Re: If Alembic made a stomp box, what would it do?
Post by: pauldo on April 08, 2019, 06:46:48 PM
Well, I could also use some sort of guitar attenuator to help me hearing the drummer.

* yes, I'm bassist and this is a joke... (sort of) ;D

I would order one of those also!   ;D   :o
Title: Re: If Alembic made a stomp box, what would it do?
Post by: sonicus on April 08, 2019, 07:01:19 PM
A combination of  Stratobaster , SF-2 and and a DI box with parallel mult/ splitter circuits at the output stage .
At the input stage a selectable option of both  a power supply 5 PIN and a standard 1/4" TS  input jack. There would be a stereo /mono option switch as well . On the top of the unit would be the  various foot switch's  that can be programmed in the inside of the unit with a panel of DIP switches for function options .
Title: Re: If Alembic made a stomp box, what would it do?
Post by: edwin on April 08, 2019, 10:39:57 PM
A combination of  Stratobaster , SF-2 and and a DI box with parallel mult/ splitter circuits at the output stage .
At the input stage a selectable option of both  a power supply 5 PIN and a standard 1/4" TS  input jack. There would be a stereo /mono option switch as well . On the top of the unit would be the  various foot switch's  that can be programmed in the inside of the unit with a panel of DIP switches for function options .

An IN-2 with an SF-2 can cover most of that functionality, along with some additional switching. Albeit, in a rack.
Title: Re: If Alembic made a stomp box, what would it do?
Post by: sonicus on April 08, 2019, 11:28:32 PM
Edwin , I own  two each of the Alembic Rack devices that you mention and because of such
 I feel blessed , by my GAS  :) . Indeed !   As a " Stomp Box " version of such functionality   one could make it a delightful addition to a pedal board array as I enter another dimension of my mutating and evolving  GAS  and the thoughts and ideas spark and bubble in anticipation of the possibilities that could be made a reality .