Alembic Guitars Club

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Title: new Alembic effect?
Post by: Mr. Bill on February 06, 2019, 02:22:04 PM
Anyone ever heard of Allenbik's egg effect before? Lol


https://reverb.com/item/18494962-alembic-japan-aj-i-hb
Title: Re: new Alembic effect?
Post by: edwardofhuncote on February 06, 2019, 04:19:56 PM
Dragons are known to lay eggs, but one can never be certain of the effects I suppose...  :)


No kidding, for $1700 that's almost worth a risk. I think it's cheaper than this on ebay. Might not be the same one.
Title: Re: new Alembic effect?
Post by: hieronymous on February 07, 2019, 10:53:56 AM
Here's the original link - my Japanese isn't quite good enough to figure out the "egg" reference. Eiji san? Anyone?


https://www.tcgakki.com/items09/tc092001.html (https://www.tcgakki.com/items09/tc092001.html)
Title: Re: new Alembic effect?
Post by: gtrguy on February 07, 2019, 12:37:25 PM
I recently bought a couple of pickups from these folks and they were super to deal with.
Title: Re: new Alembic effect?
Post by: edwardofhuncote on February 07, 2019, 02:03:06 PM
I'm going to guess they are trying to describe the filter/Q type tone circuit, with the 'hump', and there is no literal translation meaning 'elliptical'. Granted, that's a wild guess.

My buddy Mark who speaks both languages fluently, often says, "...if the English language made any sense at all, lackadaisical would have something to do with a shortage of flowers."
Title: Re: new Alembic effect?
Post by: hieronymous on February 08, 2019, 10:30:44 PM
I finally had the chance to ask my resident native speaker - the "egg" is a mistranslation of "egui" which normally has a negative meaning but colloquially has an extremely positive meaning (kind of like "bad" or "yabai" in Japanese). But the "hump" interpretation works for me!

"...it is the base recommended for women because of the good handling by a subdued body!" is also a hilarious/hideous mistranslation. It should be something like, "...this bass can also be recommended for women because the smaller body makes it easy to play."

I would love to try one of these someday! Never seen one in person, despite frequenting music stores as much as possible when I lived in Japan (in the '80s & 2000s)
Title: Re: new Alembic effect?
Post by: gtrguy on February 09, 2019, 01:07:18 PM
Seems like a good price to me.
1,673.12 United States Dollars
Title: Re: new Alembic effect?
Post by: edwardofhuncote on February 10, 2019, 04:23:35 AM
Another variation on this model with J pickups is now at $1186 on ebay, making it the least expensive Alembic I know of anywhere in the world.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F264183166595

I'm with Hieronymus; I'd love to try one. I really like this violin-like patterns' aesthetic... I think it could work as a set-neck or neck-through. (there are at least two different versions of this body too, by the way...) I seem to remember Mica saying once they'd bantered the idea around. I'd guess there are just too many better ideas.
Title: Re: new Alembic effect?
Post by: David Houck on February 10, 2019, 09:06:32 AM
... the least expensive Alembic ...

I don't remember things as well as I used to, but I'm thinking that, technically, these instruments aren't really considered to be Alembics.
Title: Re: new Alembic effect?
Post by: lbpesq on February 10, 2019, 10:21:28 AM
Are they Alembics?  They were not designed by Alembic.  They were not built by Alembic.  In my book, that makes them "not Alembic".  That said, as I understand it, they were licensed by Alembic and I believe they employed Alembic electronics.  So they aren't rip-offs and do look interesting.

Bill, tgo
Title: Re: new Alembic effect?
Post by: David Houck on February 10, 2019, 10:24:56 AM
I think Bill's right; his memory works better than mine does.  I do remember having coffee this morning.  And toast, with cherry preserves.
Title: Re: new Alembic effect?
Post by: room037 on February 10, 2019, 11:15:02 AM
Hi Harry, Sorry I'm late.

I didn't understand about "Egg effect" in Title.
"Allenbik" is only mistranslation but "Egg effect" ???
I didn't read anymore, because I'm not interested such Alembic Japan models.
I got one as junk, but PU and circuit is OK, now these are on my Hamer 12 st.

About mistranslated words :
I tried to translate in "Katakana".
Katakana is one of 3 types script for Japanese (the others are Hiragana and Kanji).
It is used when the Foreign words is written. It is based on pronunciation.
Therefore, the katakana  "Alembic " is converted to  "Allenbik " or  "Allen Vic ".

The japanese word "E-Gu-I" :
It means bad taste as bitter or astringency.
If  "E-gu" is written in katakana, it means like  "F # #king ".
But Egg is written "E-ggu" in katakana, so both words are similar.
So, "E-Gu-I" effects translated to EGG effects.

I often used the translator, but the stupid translation has always made me laugh.

Eiji
Title: Re: new Alembic effect?
Post by: David Houck on February 10, 2019, 12:08:01 PM
Eiji; thanks for the explanation.
Title: Re: new Alembic effect?
Post by: edwardofhuncote on February 10, 2019, 03:43:01 PM
Indeed, Eiji - Thank You! Fascinating!


And I believe Bill tagged these correctly as "Licensed by Alembic"... there is a thread somewhere here that I think confirms the arrangement. It's the logo that sets these apart from other side-deals and shop-nights. (like the Andreas Bullshark basses, with Alembic electronics, for instance)


I wonder what scale these are?
Title: Re: new Alembic effect?
Post by: room037 on February 10, 2019, 06:24:44 PM
I think Japanese is most curious language.

These basses are all long scale (34 inchs).
The reason for the confusion is that they have a Alembic logo.
There are various instruments equipped with activator, but I think that there is no other one with a logo.
By the way, the logo is made of metal, such as bronze.

Here is the link for Alembic Japan's brochure.
http://www8.plala.or.jp/alembic/a_japan01.jpg
http://www8.plala.or.jp/alembic/a_japan02.jpg

Eiji
Title: Re: new Alembic effect?
Post by: gtrguy on February 11, 2019, 10:58:00 AM
I wonder if they actually made the guitar version?
Title: Re: new Alembic effect?
Post by: room037 on February 11, 2019, 10:10:39 PM
I saw the proto guitar on the web.
I don't know any other AJ(Alembic Japan) guitar.
Maybe only few guitar was made for prototype.

Now, I found the photo here.
https://www.pinterest.jp/pin/631559547714076740

Eiji
Title: Re: new Alembic effect?
Post by: lbpesq on February 11, 2019, 11:01:19 PM
Nice!

Bill, tgo