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Title: Cell phone blues
Post by: StefanieJones on October 03, 2018, 10:46:24 AM
It should be a song. It comes around every couple of years. At least for me. Mine now keeps turning itself off almost all the time unless it's on a charger.

Anyone up on the latest (not bank breaker) Android phones?  Most reviews I've read seem more like manufacturer adverts. -_-;

 :(
Title: Re: Cell phone blues
Post by: David Houck on October 03, 2018, 11:12:32 AM
My phone is a Moto G5 Plus; I've had it for a little over a year now.  It's a good reliable phone.  The Moto G series is known as a good quality phone for a reasonable price.  There is a newer model out now, the G6.

My own past experience suggests avoiding used, refurbished, or reconditioned phones.
Title: Re: Cell phone blues
Post by: cozmik_cowboy on October 03, 2018, 11:13:57 AM
There many reasons I carry a flip phone with texting disabled; this is but one.  Current one is about 14 years old & going strong (and I never look at it unless I'm making a phone call....)


Peter (who wishes you kids would get off his lawn!)
Title: Re: Cell phone blues
Post by: StefanieJones on October 03, 2018, 11:38:11 AM
David, My current is a Moto X. It worked fine until recently. I Was thinking about going with moto again. I guess this one is about 3 years old, not sure.

Peter, I need a little more out of my phone anymore >.>   Videos and almost the only games I play now are on my phone, lol
Title: Re: Cell phone blues
Post by: paulman on October 03, 2018, 12:01:37 PM
Any Smartphone purchased these days is engineered to last around 18 months.  Lately it seems the Cell phone will work fine, but the batteries will no longer hold a charge.  The newest Samsung and Apple high end phones are made so the batteries cannot be changed easily by the end-user.  It's all very frustrating as an IT person that tries to control costs.  My people get the Cell phone blues often. 


I had an HTC EVO phone in 2010 that I was able to keep going for 5 years, and the only reason I had to get another phone is Sprint turned off the wireless spectrum that the HTC EVO operated on. 


Luckily it's just Cell Phone Blues.  My 2005 Further is still going strong (but I still have had to change the battery). 


I'd love to have a flip phone with texting disabled, that would be GOLD!  Nice work Cozmik!
Title: Re: Cell phone blues
Post by: keith_h on October 03, 2018, 04:08:21 PM
The batteries are replaceable in the 1st and 2nd generation phones. I don't know about later ones. Battery replacement kits run $30 - $40 and replacement services run $70 - $80. Just a thought if you current phone meets your needs outside of the bad battery.
Title: Re: Cell phone blues
Post by: pauldo on October 03, 2018, 05:02:51 PM
I’m not allowed a Smart Phone.

I’m like the Cowboy... using an olde style tri-corder flip phone.
Title: Re: Cell phone blues
Post by: StefanieJones on October 03, 2018, 06:09:49 PM
The batteries are replaceable in the 1st and 2nd generation phones. I don't know about later ones. Battery replacement kits run $30 - $40 and replacement services run $70 - $80. Just a thought if you current phone meets your needs outside of the bad battery.

I would like that, but it doesn't seem like this phone can be opened to put a battery in it.
Title: Re: Cell phone blues
Post by: cozmik_cowboy on October 03, 2018, 07:46:13 PM
I would like that, but it doesn't seem like this phone can be opened to put a battery in it.

You're probably not using a big enough hammer.

peter
Title: Re: Cell phone blues
Post by: peoplechipper on October 03, 2018, 07:54:31 PM
I'm so glad I don't have a cell phone...my bosses used to even say they would get me one just to piss me off! I of course promised that I would leave it at home and never charge it so they have wisely chosen not to waste their time and money...Peter, I'm with you-more cell phones should meet with hammers...
Title: Re: Cell phone blues
Post by: elwoodblue on October 04, 2018, 12:44:06 AM
Great minds thinking alike  ;)


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Title: Re: Cell phone blues
Post by: edwardofhuncote on October 04, 2018, 02:02:57 AM
If it weren't for my Android phone, I wouldn't be able to hang out with you guys. :(

By the way Stephanie, I replaced my Galaxy 5 with a 7, in spite of the fact that 8 was already out. The 7's were a lot cheaper and were similar enough that I didn't have to relearn a bunch of functions. I've had it almost a year now, with no problems.
Title: Re: Cell phone blues
Post by: gearhed289 on October 04, 2018, 07:27:59 AM
By the way Stephanie, I replaced my Galaxy 5 with a 7, in spite of the fact that 8 was already out. The 7's were a lot cheaper and were similar enough that I didn't have to relearn a bunch of functions. I've had it almost a year now, with no problems.

I always get "last year's model". I'm not much of a phone enthusiast. It still amazes me that people wait in line for the new iPhone. I've had a Samsung Galaxy S6 for a little over 2 years now with no problems. Flip phone is tempting.  8)
Title: Re: Cell phone blues
Post by: xlrogue6 on October 04, 2018, 09:51:04 AM
I guess I win the low tech award--my cell is a Nokia candy bar that mostly lives in the saddlebag of my bicycle in case of dire emergency.
Title: Re: Cell phone blues
Post by: lbpesq on October 04, 2018, 10:15:24 AM
Being a big Star Trek fan, I loved my old flip phone.  I was reluctantly dragged into smartphone land when my flip phone wouldn't work with the hands-free feature in my car's sound system (gotta be hands-free here in California).  I have, however, drawn the line at texting - I do not send or receive texts.  I will resist becoming one of the Borg as long as I can!

Bill, (the Luddite), tgo
Title: Re: Cell phone blues
Post by: cozmik_cowboy on October 04, 2018, 11:05:02 AM
I'm not that high-tech, Bill - my hands-free (also the law in IL) is a $35 bluetooth thingie that clips on the visor (Volvo's sound systems, while quite good, had no bluetooth capability in '04 - but it does have AM, FM, CD, and cassette.....)


Who is also an admirer of General Ned)
Title: Re: Cell phone blues
Post by: bigredbass on October 05, 2018, 12:51:37 AM
I'm a flip-phone guy.  I don't text, Facebook, Twit, or Insta myself, life is too short.  I think smart phones are the modern equivalent of the tower of babel (or more correctly, babble).  Who cares what I think, where I went to eat, or pictures of my back room or even worse, a plate of food.  Geez . . . . . I just need something so Shirley can tell 911 what ditch I'm laying in after getting thrown of the motorcycle.  I like home computers and digital cameras, so I'm good.
Title: Re: Cell phone blues
Post by: garyhead on October 05, 2018, 04:17:03 AM
The battery problems with the iPhones (dying after about 18 months) has been a good deal!  The battery swells inside the phone destroying guts.  They just gave me a new phone! (I didn't have a warranty or Apple Care). Same problem with my brothers iPhone last week and he got a new phone.  So, until they fix their battery issues......free replacements for Everybody!  😬😜
Title: Re: Cell phone blues
Post by: cozmik_cowboy on October 05, 2018, 07:25:25 AM
I'm a flip-phone guy.  I don't text, Facebook, Twit, or Insta myself, life is too short.  I think smart phones are the modern equivalent of the tower of babel (or more correctly, babble).  Who cares what I think, where I went to eat, or pictures of my back room or even worse, a plate of food.  Geez . . . . . I just need something so Shirley can tell 911 what ditch I'm laying in after getting thrown of the motorcycle.  I like home computers and digital cameras, so I'm good.


Joey!  My soulmate!

Peter (who, while he does use a digital camera, still misses film.....)
Title: Re: Cell phone blues
Post by: peoplechipper on October 06, 2018, 01:01:27 AM
More than film, peter, I miss FILM CAMERAS. Older film cameras are solid and feel like serious equipment built to last, and they do last...it's nice to carry lighter stuff when I'm planning to take pics but I wish it was a little more robust ( I have a Nikon j5 and it's pretty cool ). It's also nice not to cost $25 for developing a roll only to find that only three were good...a much cheaper learning curve...Tony.
Title: Re: Cell phone blues
Post by: StefanieJones on October 06, 2018, 08:08:01 AM
I dont miss film at all. I really like digital editing. It provides so much flexibility.
Title: Re: Cell phone blues
Post by: hankster on October 06, 2018, 01:54:12 PM
I love my Leica M3. It was my dad’s. no digital camera will cover that territory.
Title: Re: Cell phone blues
Post by: jazzyvee on October 06, 2018, 11:47:35 PM
Cell phone according to Victor Wooten
Title: Re: Cell phone blues
Post by: hammer on October 07, 2018, 07:23:04 AM
I'm not really sure how I feel about this one. I travel a lot internationally and it's great to be able to use GPS to get around large cities with which I'm not familiar, connect with home pretty much seamlessly, and access the board. I don't tweet, rarely post of Facebook (although I have to at times to show funding agencies we actually are getting work done and its now required on some of our grants) and while my classic iPod still worked never used a phone to listen to music. The new iPods are a lot less functional, hold less music, and are really nothing more than iPhones without the phone part.


However, the things are really instant reinforcement boxes that I've seen people of every age get addicted to and seem unable to put down. Some of the faculty at the UMN now have a table set up in front of their classrooms and require all students to place their smartphones on it prior to beginning class.  It's gotten to the point that I've heard from my colleagues that some students actually now carry their old cellphones (no longer working) to place on the table because it's "anxiety producing" to be out of touch for the length of a class period. It's not just phones though, but includes tablets and laptops people use to get instant gratification (e.g. How many of my Facebook friends liked that stupid cat video I just posted - which I probably posted while I was sitting in Psych 101). I learned quickly a number of years ago that regardless of class size students will be texting, posting, etc. regardless of what else they are supposed to be doing. Only way I found to stop it was to wander around the room while I taught and ask questions to those who appeared to be preoccupied.
Title: Re: Cell phone blues
Post by: cozmik_cowboy on October 07, 2018, 12:27:49 PM
However, the things are really instant reinforcement boxes that I've seen people of every age get addicted to and seem unable to put down.

4 years ago we went to a party to send a nephew off to college.  At point it got really quiet, so I looked around; 20+ people - at a family gathering - aged 11-72, and my wife & i were the only ones not texting. It's a sickness.

Some of the faculty at the UMN now have a table set up in front of their classrooms and require all students to place their smartphones on it prior to beginning class.  It's gotten to the point that I've heard from my colleagues that some students actually now carry their old cellphones (no longer working) to place on the table because it's "anxiety producing" to be out of touch for the length of a class period. It's not just phones though, but includes tablets and laptops people use to get instant gratification (e.g. How many of my Facebook friends liked that stupid cat video I just posted - which I probably posted while I was sitting in Psych 101). I learned quickly a number of years ago that regardless of class size students will be texting, posting, etc. regardless of what else they are supposed to be doing. Only way I found to stop it was to wander around the room while I taught and ask questions to those who appeared to be preoccupied.

As a K-12 sub, I started every class by telling them just how easy they were to spot ("No, when you're holding a notebook up in front of yourself with one hand, you're being sneaky & clever") & the certainty that, when I did see them, I would write them up.  Still turned in several yellow sheets at the end of every day.
I fortunately never had a college class that was so large I couldn't see them all. I told them on the first day that if I saw a phone once, they would leave the room & lose all credit for the day; if I saw it a second time they failed the class.  Only had to send one guy out once.

Peter
Title: Re: Cell phone blues
Post by: lbpesq on October 07, 2018, 01:29:46 PM
Our son is 23.  I suspect if I superglued his phone to his left palm, it would be at least three days before he would notice!  One group mind, everyone knows everything instantly, mostly reams of worthless info - the Borg are taking over!

Now get off my lawn.

Bill, tgo
Title: Re: Cell phone blues
Post by: bigredbass on October 12, 2018, 10:51:26 PM
When we take our breaks at work, I'm sitting around with 20 or so people . . . . . who all have their heads down into their so-called 'smart' phones.  No talk, no conversation, I could light myself on fire and no one would look up.  No thanks.

I was raised as the son of a wedding photographer and started off with a 120 Agfa Super Speedex folder as a kid, armed with a Kodak Photo Guide.  No light meter, but it did have a rangefinder.  I often joke I had two twin stepbrothers . . . . . a pair of Rollei 2.8F's.  Film cameras were wonderful, mechanical, clockwork devices back then, full of gears, springs, sprockets, etc.  Film taught you a certain discipline in that you had to learn in order to KNOW you got it in the camera, it would be a while before it was developed and printed.  The chemistry is what killed it, and when that ran into the digital revolution, it was over, as dead as steam locomotives in the jet age.

I liken film photography to the way recording was done before multi-track.  Everyone in the same room, playing the tune, one take double or nothing, and hope the mics were in the right place and everyone stayed in their lane.  Digital photography is like (or really is . . . .) digital recording,  take everything apart, re-arrange, re-tune, fix, change rooms, and shoot it wirelessly around the room or the world.  It's amazing to now have cameras that my Dad would have said were impossible.

As somebody who was the 'one-hour' guy for several years, I REALLY don't miss color prints and C41 chemistry.  But I dearly miss transparencies:  I think the whole world looks better on Velvia, and one day, Fujifilm will finally perfect a 'Velvia' profile in their X-cameras.  Close, but not quite there just yet . . . . I still look down at my digital cameras occasionally and for a split second wonder 'where's the rewind crank?' . . . . .
Title: Re: Cell phone blues
Post by: cozmik_cowboy on October 13, 2018, 08:03:44 AM
I don't know the model, Joey, but in '56 my aunt bought a Rolleiflex DLR (for $150, in '56 - not a Kodak Brownie).  Never learned to work it, so she gave it her mom.  granny never learned to work it, so she gave it to me.  I never learned to work it, so I gave it to a friend who already knew how to use it.  I'm glad it got used, but have often wished I'd held on to it & learned how to work it.  It was beautiful.

But do you want to know what bothers me most about my digital camera?  The damn screen instead of a proper veiwfinder! 

Peter (Who did, in fact, have a Brownie, too)
Title: Re: Cell phone blues
Post by: bigredbass on October 13, 2018, 10:35:56 AM

Peter, step up to a camera with an EVF (electronic viewfinder):  The new cameras have wonderful viewfinders, and unlike the view thru a traditional rangefinder window or a single lens reflex view, you are now seeing what the picture will look like, plus you don't have to fight it to see well in broad daylight.  Or just get one of the X100 Fujis:  Looks like a traditional rangefinder, but with the ingenious feature of either looking thru a traditional eye-level finder like a rangefinder, then throwing a front switch which replaces that view with an EVF image right off the sensor.  What a hoot.  Get used to a good EVF and you'll never go back to a traditional optical finder.



https://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujifilm_x100F/ (https://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujifilm_x100F/)


. . . . and more to the point, the ingenious OVF/EVF:


https://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujifilm_x100f/features/page_02.html
Title: Re: Cell phone blues
Post by: StefanieJones on October 13, 2018, 02:03:38 PM
This is what I'm usually looking at through the viewfinder on my 5D...

https://blog.kareldonk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/5dscreen1.jpg

I couldn't imagine using a camera and not being able to look through a viewfinder. :s It's nice to focus on the subject not whatever is not going to be in the image.
Title: Re: Cell phone blues
Post by: David Houck on October 13, 2018, 02:16:22 PM
This is what I'm usually looking at through the viewfinder on my 5D...

You're usually looking at horses and rainbows by the seashore?  Very cool!
Title: Re: Cell phone blues
Post by: elwoodblue on October 13, 2018, 07:46:18 PM

You're usually looking at horses and rainbows by the seashore?  Very cool!


good one Dave   ;D
Title: Re: Cell phone blues
Post by: StefanieJones on October 14, 2018, 08:24:38 AM
Correct. I live at the shore, and there's a lot of horsies and rainbows :P lol
Title: Re: Cell phone blues
Post by: David Houck on October 14, 2018, 09:10:47 AM
   :)