Alembic Guitars Club
Connecting => Swap Shop and Wish Lists => Seen on craigslist, eBay, and elsewhere => Topic started by: flavofive on August 23, 2018, 05:28:03 PM
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Not sure if posting the Fernandes copies is not cool (feel free to delete this if so), but thought this was interesting due to how rarely they come up for sale at all, much less the guitar and bass versions at the same time.
Links below for the FAB-170 short-scale bass for sale, + the very unfortunately-named FAG-170 guitar:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fernandez-bass-FAB-170/283115025568?hash=item41eaf874a0:g:TasAAOSwkSxbJef5 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fernandez-bass-FAB-170/283115025568?hash=item41eaf874a0:g:TasAAOSwkSxbJef5)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fernandez-FAG-170/283117091923?hash=item41eb17fc53:g:k-AAAOSwYM9bfEko (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fernandez-FAG-170/283117091923?hash=item41eb17fc53:g:k-AAAOSwYM9bfEko)
That said, they are both in Japan, and I believe both have had the typical "multiple listings by different sellers" so far, so buyer beware.
Plus the $3,900 asking price for the guitar, with 1 broken pickup, seems a bit out there. :)
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Definitely crazy money asking price. These, however, are not Masterhands. The Masterhands were more Strat-like in shape. Here's mine:
http://alembic.com/club/messages/449/27907.html?1151871041
(Scroll down to the second set of pics to see it with the final mods completed).
Bill, tgo
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looks like this is also one, with logo and marketed as Alembic? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Alembic-series-1-bass-guitar-short-scale/302856308746?hash=item4683a4880a:g:3WMAAOSwUC1bZfpX
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Thank you Bill! Seems there may be a few misattributions on the net. I've corrected the Subject.
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Flip, I think you are absolutely correct that the "Alembic" you linked is really a Fernandes. The wood is right as most I've seen were Zebrawood. More telling is a close look at the tailpiece. The bird seems a little narrower and less substantial than an authentic Alembic tailpiece. And the power supply sure looks like a Fernandes power supply with the name rubbed off or covered up. It certainly isn't a DS5. I've sent the seller a message.
Bill, tgo
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Although these have that nice vintage look but I would not knowingly buy a fake alembic especially the guitar as it claims to weigh 3km. :-)
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looks like this is also one, with logo and marketed as Alembic? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Alembic-series-1-bass-guitar-short-scale/302856308746?hash=item4683a4880a:g:3WMAAOSwUC1bZfpX
Saw that one last night. I thought the horns and pickup selector position looked a little off, but didn't really look that closely. Buyer beware!
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Ha, you're right, it "weighs" 3.9 kilometers. ??? Sure don't build 'em like they used to.
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I heard back from the seller thanking me for the info. He's changed the description to "Alembic Series I, I'm not sure?"
Bill, tgo
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It's gone. At $3000, I'm sure... hoping not. :(
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Afternoon folks,
This listing has ended , but ,
Check out this Fernandes twelve string !
Nice photos !
http://aucfree.com/items/m168049341#
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It's gone. At $3000, I'm sure... hoping not. :(
The bass mentioned here DOES have an Alembic logo on the headstock that looks real.
I agree that the tailpiece looks a little off and that the selector switch and knobs look wrong.
If that is a legit Alembic emblem on the headstock then it seems like this bass was definitely intended to deceive.
The other Fernandes basses (and guitars) I have seen say "Fernandes" on the headstock.
Is it possible that someone removed the Fernandes logo and replaced it with an Alembic logo?
Yes, and probably most likely.
Is it possible that this actually is an Alembic Series I?
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/jw8AAOSwjNZbZfqE/s-l1600.jpg)
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The power supply that came with it was a Fernandes power supply with the Fernandes name obliterated. And the pickups were not embossed "Alembic". It was a Fernandes FAB-170, not an Alembic.
Bill, tgo
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The power supply that came with it was a Fernandes power supply with the Fernandes name obliterated. And the pickups were not embossed "Alembic". It was a Fernandes FAB-170, not an Alembic.
Bill, tgo
Yes, I agree. You are probably right.
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Lately I have noticed multible eBay sellers selling the same instrument at various prices . Who else is noticing this ?
Is that not a breach of eBay rules ? All those sellers selling the exact same item could be linked somehow it seems to me perhaps . :) .
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It seems that all of these are coming out of Japan. I think what is happening is that several different "sellers" are finding interesting instruments in Japanese music stores, taking pics, and them listing them on eBay for more than the store's price. If it sells on eBay, the "seller" will then buy it from the store and sell it to the eBay purchaser.
Bill, tgo
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If it isn't a bunch of people working to sell the same/a similar instrument(s), would people just download the images from one auction and then run a scam from outside the US? I remember this was somewhat of a concern ten plus years ago, but I wonder if it is still as easy today on eBay or with modern payment services.
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I owned one, and it was a very good bass. Paid 700 for it (Eu) It sounded very close to a series 1. Loved it, but it always felt like having a copy in your hand. And as I am an Alembic fan, I sold it to a guy in Ireland and bought the real thing again.. ;0
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I heard back from the seller thanking me for the info. He's changed the description to "Alembic Series I, I'm not sure?"
Bill, tgo
It's back, and he's still "not sure." I wonder if someone returned it?
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That's a good question...
...I'm not sure.
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...and sold, again.
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I'm not sure.....Really? The guy SELLS Alembics! There is never a mention of a serial #..... He can't find / post the S/N?