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Title: Could gibson bring a suit against Alembic?
Post by: jacko on March 15, 2017, 04:39:21 AM
just been made aware of this Judgement giving Gibson exclusive rights to their explorer bodyshape..

http://www.mi-pro.co.uk/news/read/gibson-confirms-exclusive-rights-to-trademarked-guitar-designs-in-legal-dispute-with-jhs/022100

IMO it's not lightyears away from the Exploiter bodyshape  :-\



Graeme
Title: Re: Could gibson bring a suit against Alembic?
Post by: lbpesq on March 15, 2017, 08:54:34 AM
I did a little more digging into this story.  It appears that Gibson and JHS reached a settlement.  In that situation, the settlement applies to JHS only.  If order for Gibson to prevail in a lawsuit against  Alembic, (perish the thought!), Gibson would have to prove that consumers were confused about the true manufacturer.  Personally, I think Gibson would have a very difficult time proving people were buying Alembic Exploiters thinking they were Gibsons.

Bill, tgo (who took copyright law in law school from the Beatles lawyer - great stories!)
Title: Re: Could gibson bring a suit against Alembic?
Post by: cozmik_cowboy on March 15, 2017, 10:57:10 AM
And if Henry wanted to go that route, I think there are other companies with a higher output & closer, um - "inspiration" shall we say?  - from the Explorer he'd go after first

Peter
Title: Re: Could gibson bring a suit against Alembic?
Post by: gtrguy on March 15, 2017, 11:36:31 AM
Pretty funny considering Gibson/Epiphone have certainly made strat shaped guitars themselves.
Title: Re: Could gibson bring a suit against Alembic?
Post by: 5a quilt top on March 16, 2017, 09:47:46 AM
This is similar to the Gibson / PRS legal issues re: Les Paul vs. Singlecut body shapes that surfaced a few years ago.


As customer who owned both, I was contacted via phone for an interview by PRS and was asked the specific question: "When you made your purchase, were you at all confused by the similarity of the body shapes?".


To which I responded: "Absolutely not. I purchased each instrument because of its specific capabilities. To me, they both look, sound and feel completely different from each other".


For additional proof, try to fit a Singlecut into an LP case (and vice-versa).


At the time, I thought it was a nuisance lawsuit and was disappointed to learn that PRS could not sell or promote the Singlecut model while it was going on, but Gibson was not similarly restricted re: the LP.


So I agree - I do not think a knowledgable customer would be confused by any perceived visual similarity between the Exploiter and Explorer.
Title: Re: Could gibson bring a suit against Alembic?
Post by: gtrguy on March 16, 2017, 12:27:12 PM
Maybe my old Washburn A15 will go up in value now?
Title: Re: Could gibson bring a suit against Alembic?
Post by: gtrguy on March 16, 2017, 12:37:20 PM
Some other styles that are similar:


http://www.edroman.com/featured/explorersnothers.htm


Note; I am not promoting this persons site in any way. These images are just for your own entertainment !!
Title: Re: Could gibson bring a suit against Alembic?
Post by: pauldo on March 16, 2017, 02:23:52 PM
Why does the "copy of the John Entwistle Explorer by Ed Roman" have an Alembic logo on the V headstock?  Are they insinuating that Alembic copied Ed Roman's design???
(http://club.alembic.com/webkit-fake-url://16d11454-2862-4e5f-8a2a-cc0935b6158d/imagejpeg)
Title: Re: Could gibson bring a suit against Alembic?
Post by: mica on March 16, 2017, 04:13:29 PM
Why does the "copy of the John Entwistle Explorer by Ed Roman" have an Alembic logo on the V headstock?  Are they insinuating that Alembic copied Ed Roman's design???
(http://club.alembic.com/webkit-fake-url://16d11454-2862-4e5f-8a2a-cc0935b6158d/imagejpeg)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Oh sorry, but that was good one.
Title: Re: Could gibson bring a suit against Alembic?
Post by: mica on March 17, 2017, 10:22:38 AM
I think this was actually back when Ed Roman was a dealer and maybe this bass was for sale there.
Title: Re: Could gibson bring a suit against Alembic?
Post by: keith_h on March 17, 2017, 01:51:38 PM
And we all know Ed never would have taken credit for another's work.
Title: Re: Could gibson bring a suit against Alembic?
Post by: lbpesq on March 17, 2017, 04:43:22 PM
or, at least, not anymore!

hehehehe

bill, tgo