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Connecting => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: Douglas Signorovitch (1stbass) on January 27, 2003, 03:33:23 AM
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Anyone have any info on good rack mounted tuners.I;am about to go buy one and would like to invest in a good one. if you go buy price alone the peterson suff looks good,any help from users would be great.
thanks doug
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Hi Douglas,
I have been using a Korg DT1 Pro rackmount digital tuner for more than 15 years now. So I can easily say they are very accurate and road ready :-)
I have no experience with the newer Korg models DTR1000 en DTR2000, perhaps someone else has ?
So, 1 vote for Korg !
Peace
Jan
(Message edited by janriviere on January 27, 2003)
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Hey Doug,
Another vote for Korg here. I use the DTR1000 and have been extremely happy with it. Very accurate, great large display and looks good as well. Here's a link if you want to check it out.
http://www.korg.com/gear/info.asp?A_PROD_NO=DTR1000 (http://www.korg.com/gear/info.asp?A_PROD_NO=DTR1000)
Mikey/
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I personally use a Furman power conditioner with a built in tuner. It is 2 devices in one single rack space. It works well.
Michael
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Hi Michael,
can you give me some info on the Furman? I was looking around here for a power conditioner and found cheap an AmericanAudio, good, rack-mountable with two light is front to clear the rack. About 70 ? (? = $).
I have a Tuner (an old one) but the rack in construction is getting SO FULL. The combination you propose will give me some room. I guess the Furman is rather expensive?
Second: are you from the DR5R go to the Furman tuner and than to the pre-amp (f.e. a F1-X) or are you keeping the tuner out of this chain?
Thanks for help!
Paul
(Message edited by palembic on January 27, 2003)
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Paul,
http://www.furmansound.com (http://www.furmansound.com) might be usefull to you.
CU
Jan
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Thanks Jan,
I just visited that site but didn't find a conditioner with a build in tuner?
What type? Michael or Jan?
Paul
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Paul,
I didn't found them on the Furman site, but you're looking for something like http://www.epinions.com/Cables-Accessories-All-Furman_PLTUNER_Power_Conditioner_Instrument_Tuner (http://www.epinions.com/Cables-Accessories-All-Furman_PLTUNER_Power_Conditioner_Instrument_Tuner)
I guess
Maybe, they don't include the tuners in the power conditoners anymore ? I really don't know.
PS: I use a Furman PL-PRO-E (E for European version !) without the integrated tuner.
CU
Jan
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Paul,
Jan may be right about them not making these any more, I didn't see it on the Furman site either. They still have them for sale at this site:
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=030127081902064252014104982329/search/g=home/detail/base_id/38391 (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=030127081902064252014104982329/search/g=home/detail/base_id/38391)
Lists for $199 US. Also, if they did stop making them then the price will probably drop as they try to get rid of the remaining stock.
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Paul - I got mine from Guitar Center in New Orleans a couple or three years ago. I go from the DS5-R to the tuner and then to the preamp/mains. This way i can tune discreetly by pressing the mute button and no one can hear the tuning. Quite nice. I highly recommend this tuner. Works great even with a low B tuning.
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Gang!
I HATE THIS!
FURMAN just cinfirmed me that the product you all talking about is not continued.
I think it was even not available in Europe. Info?? Jan??
So Matt, I went to the site you showed but unfortunately it's not an E (European power). I'm an electronical neanderthaler so I really don't have the faintest clue if there are changements to make to change the model.
I'm stuck!
Anyway, thanks for info but I'll have to check another brand.
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Paul,
I know that we (in Europe) must be sure to order the E versions of the Furman products. For instance the 220V PL-PLUS-E instead of the 120V PL-PLUS. If you order any Furman device in Europe, you won't be able to order anything else than a E version. I don't know if those Power Conditioners with integrated tuners were ever distributed in Europe. I never saw one.
On the otherhand, I also considered that integrated piece instead of the 2 units I have now. Afterwards, I am glad that I chose the Korg unit. I think it's far more accurate, and the display is more detailled. I can understand that you want to save space in your rack. What you also might consider is to mount some 19 stuff like a powerconditonner in the back of your rack. That is still an option I have if it becomes to crowded in the front.
PS: http://www.musicstorekoeln.de/ (http://www.musicstorekoeln.de/) have some real sharp prices if you contact them online. That's the place where I ordered already a lot of amp and rack gear. They also sell Furman stuff.
Peace
Jan
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JAN!
HOE IST?
Thanks for the info Jan!
Think with me my friend.
My (future) rack that I'm slowly building up now will have: a DS5-R, a F1-x. a SF-2, a QSC 1602 (2 units), that leaves me space for 1 unit in the practical 6 unit rackmount. Wouldn't it be great to have the Powerconditioner (with the lights) and a tuner in one?
I need those lights in front because my eyes are going badly (true) and in the bad-bar-lighting circumstances (we do most that kind of stuff) it already happened that I was unable to see my settings properly.
I have the KORG D1 Pro (an old one) and he works good. Apart from the fact that you can only plug an instrument in from the front. The set-up Michael discribes by patching the signal through doesn't work anymore and because I'm an electronical-neanderthaler ...well ....you know!
Thanks Jan.
Paul
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thanks everyone for the help i do like the looks pf the furman unit,it's a lot less money then the peterson tuners.
Does any one know about the peterson tuners?
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Douglas,
You have to hurry to the site Matt gave us. There is still a Furman Power conditioner/tuner for sale. The Furman company was very formal: the product is NOT continued!
Good luck!
Paul
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Douglas,
The store I worked at until a few months ago, carries Peterson Strobe tuners; I sold a few of them, and fooled around a bit with one, but I would not consider myself an expert. Having said that, I did like what I saw when I tried one, and one of my more experienced co-workers, Rik Elswit ( a former Dr. Hook & The Medicine Show bandmember, a guitar salesman extraordinaire for the last 14 years or so) swears by them. As you know, they do cost a lot of money, but their reputation is amazing & you can tune anything with them.
Personally, as Jan & Michael indicated earlier, I would probably choose either the older Korg DT models( DT1, DT2) or their newer incarnations the DTRs (DTR1000, DTR2000); those are excellent tuners that are great for stage work as well, because of their easily visible display; they also cost much less than the Peterson tuners, which might be a bit of an overkill if all you want to tune is a bass guitar.
Also , if you can find one used, you might like what i have which is a Boss TU50 chromatic tuner (now discontinued), a half rack unit with a good display that shows tuning from +/- 50% down to +/- 2%.
Valentino
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Hi Paul,
Everything's fine with me, thanks
Can't you move the DS5-R to the back of your rack ? What is the depth of that unit ? Then you have 2 units free in the front ?
Your rack must be deep enough whith that poweramp in it I guess. Just an idea ...
Cu
Jan
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Jan,
could work.
I've never seen an Alembic DS5-R actually, I dunno if they are deep or not.
The only inconvenient will be that you enter the rack with your guitar on the back of the rack.
Another possibility is going further with the small Boss-tuner I always keep with my guitar.
Than I'll put the Korg DT1 Pro for sale together with the Lexicon MPX 100
CU
Paul
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Paul,
I just looked something up, Furman did make the European version of their PL tuner ! check http://www.google.be/search?q=%22Pl-Tuner+E%22&hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 (http://www.google.be/search?q=%22Pl-Tuner%2BE%22&hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8)
So, if you have the time to follow-up the European Ebay-sites on a regular basis, you might be lucky finding one.
happy hunting ;-)
Jan
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And another thing, I should think twice selling that old Korg tuner. It is not the first time I hear people say that these tuners are(were) very good. I also had a problem once with the rear connectors that is now fixed. I found a guy in Tielt (Belgium) who repaired my Korg tuner. You can contact him at http://users.skynet.be/musiccenter-tielt/intro.htm (http://users.skynet.be/musiccenter-tielt/intro.htm)
The guy is a real electrnic music wonder. It is not near your door, but he does a fine job.
Talk to you later
Jan
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Po-po-po-pooooooom, po-po-pooooom
This is Paul humming the Indiana Jones theme again on his hunting mission. (I start commenting to myself like Snoopy ..jeeez).
Thanks Jan for the lead.
Yes ...I know about the Korg but, unfortunately I have to throw something out when something comes in, kinda deal with Senior Management. I prefer throwing out a device like that instead of a guitar. (But I can't throw out a lot of them: there is only one LOL!)
Paul
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If the senior management :-) decides to throw Bonnie out the door, I'll be more than happy to be in the neighbourhood LOL :-)
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Thanks agin for all your input i went and did it i just bought a Peterson R590 Auto strobe tuner. It was a lot of money but i have tihs crazy idea to open a music store one day and i think this will be a great tool to have in the shop.The last thing i need to do is to get the credit card bill past senior management
Doug
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OK ...ONE BIG HAND FOR DOUGLAS AND HIS PETERSON!.
Here's the deal Doug, we don't need pictures but we do like your opinion on it when you start using it. Fair?
BTW: we didn't know you were going in music business kinda store. I guess it's THE thing to buy than.
Paul
PS: hint: hide the creditcard bill between a bunch of roses this evening when presenting to Senior Management.
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OK Paul, that sounds fair enough. As fare as the music sotre thats a long way off. I hope to one day retire and be a kranky old man that selles and fixes fine guitars etc.
And with the cost of that thing it my be roses and dinner out for senior managment.
thanks
doug