Alembic Guitars Club
Connecting => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: richbass939 on November 24, 2004, 04:47:46 PM
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I was just wondering what kinds of music you guys play and listen to. I can't imagine a type of music that an Alembic wouldn't sound great behind. What types of music do you play at home, play at gigs, and listen to? What bass players interest you or influenced you?
Rich
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Everything. Really. Right now I'm listening to Don McLean (earlier it was Cat Stevens). I'm a big YES and King Crimson fan, and listen to whatever jazz or symphonic music the IU station has playing when I'm driving around. Cake is awesome, as are Chicago (the old stuff), Kate Bush, Rush, Johnny Cash, Dylan, The Police, Miles, Zappa, Beatles, Sex Pistols, the Floyd, ELP, Elvis Costello, John Hartford, Pearl Jam, Jaco, They Might Be Giants - You get the idea. Pretty much everything except modern Country and Western (which is way too formula for me to not get p*ssed off listening). I think I probably use a bit of all of it when I play (and I'm developing a mean bottleneck-slide bass technique). I've copied just about everything I have onto the computer and usually just set the thing on random stun and let it play for hours while I'm working. My folks owned radio stations of all stripes for many years, so I've got an eclectic couple-hundred or so hours of sound to keep me entertained. A Steve Gadd drum solo just came on. Sweet.
Some time ago I had an opportunity to ask Tony Levin what he listens to for inspiration while he's doing his photography or whatever, and his reply was that he tries to only listen to good music, because if bad music becomes acceptable to your ears, then you will unwittingly begin incorporating it into what you're playing. Sounds reasonable to me. He listens to a lot of Berlioz, Ravel, Stravinsky and the like, if I recall. Abraham Laboriel & Al Jarreau just came on. I LOVE WinAmp!
John
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Richard,
I just checked out your profile. I played 3 nights in Craig in early '83 and thought I was going to get killed every night. Some guy was buying us two or three rounds of whiskey every set and we were told by the bar owner that we should drink them all if we didn't want to get shot by the appreciative patron (it must have been the Alembic that he liked so much). I went out to breakfast with the female lead singer of the band and everybody in the dive got up and stood around our table and told us what they wanted to do with her in explicit detail. One of the scariest experiences of my life. Otherwise, what a cool part of the world to behold!
And Jimmy Page, John Paul Jones and Albert Lee just finished playing and Larry Graham's bass solo just came on...
John
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John,
You're right. Craig can be a little on the red side. Now the scariest folks are the ones on meth (or cooking it up). But, I like having the mountains right here. It makes for a nice, easy get-away. So, you were gigging with an Alembic in 1983?
You have a wide assortment of bass player interests. Same here. It makes for a more interesting sound. One can make a song sound completely different by throwing in a groove that changes the feel. Especially for jam type of songs where you have time to explore a little. Some of my best memories as a player are when the drummer and I locked in and experimented. We could change the feel several times. People think we're just in the background but we can literally take over a song.
I didn't know you could see someone's profile. I am new to all this. It's not a problem but I thought that was just for Mica and the others in the company.
Rich
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Richard,
Simply click on my name (or yours) and it should open a new window with the profile.
John
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John, That sounds like every night here in the French Quarter of New Orleans! I know what you mean.
When I am just listening, I usually have something on as background music. I am tuned in to our local jazz station, WWOZ. They are on the web and you can listen to them anywhere. When I am driving in the car, country. I am a fan of new country, but I love the classics too.
When I am playing bass, it could be anything!
Michael
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Early this evening I was listening to Marcus Miller.
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I like to listen to many kinds of music, but lately I've been on a bit of a jam band jag. I've been listening to a lot of moe., Bela Fleck and the Flecktones (Victor Lemonte Wooten kicks ass), Grateful Dead, Umphrey's McGee, Gov't Mule - Warren Haynes in general, Medeski, Martin and Wood, String Cheese Incident, Yonder Mountain String Band (mind-blowing bluegrass). I've also been enjoying Derek Trucks and Robert Randolph, these young guys are future legends in my estimation.
Always in my CD mix is Miles, Coltrane, Monk, Wayne Shorter, Horace Silver and other bebop stuff - also John Scofield, Wynton Marsalis and Marcus Miller. I don't go long without a healthy dose of Latin Jazz (lately: Gonzalo Rubalcaba, Caribbean Jazz Project, Jesus Alemany - plenty more). Check out Avishai Cohen - great young jazz musician plays piano and bass. Also listening to some Charles Earland on the Hammond B3.
I'm on the staff at the Las Vegas Philharmonic as well so I get to see a fair amount of live classical and art music. Stuff I want to make more time for is George Clinton and P-Funk, Leo Kotke, Brian Wilson, Jorma Kaukonen, more Miles Davis, Steven Stills (his older stuff), Dwayne Allman, a cool gospel group - Ollabelle, the Campbell Brothers, David Grisman, and Kaki King, a very promising young acoustic guitarist, too many others to list.
Well, that's what's in the rotation lately - any other suggestions?
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Classic rock,& anything funky,& kickass drummers!
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Just picked up the album Brain from Hiromi, Anthony Jackson/ Tony Grey on Bass ...Tight, tasteful and just plain jaw droppingly good.
I 've also been revisiting alot of my Stevie Wonder Albums, the album Natural Wonder is one of my favorites.
besides that .... Grateful Dead, Miles, Wilco ...
- Tom
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That's quite the variety, as I expected. Mentioning Victor Wooten (whom I saw once with Bela Fleck) got me thinking about a clinic video a friend showed me. Victor played a solo version of Amazing Grace. It started out slowly with harmonics then moved into slapping and popping. What dexterity and imagination. Has anyone seen it?
Rich
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Yes; Wooten's Amazing Grace is very nice indeed!
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Me? Rush (Geddy is my biggest influence), Yes (as is Chris Squire), The Who (hey, I own a Spyder!), Jethro Tull, early Genesis, Frank Zappa, King Crimson, the Police, Led Zeppelin, The Beatles and Paul McCartney's later stuff, The Red Hot Chili Peppers, Stanley Clarke, Jaco (amazing we only have to say his first name and everyone knows who we're talking about!), Toto (David Hungate was very underrated, IMHO - his solo on 99 is amazing), the Yellow Jackets (Jimmy Haslip - a monster), the Smithereens (a guilty pleasure), Duran Duran (love John Taylor's stuff - it always fit), Dire Straits (John Ilsey - equally underrated), Level 42 (Mark King - what can I say), Blue Oyster Cult (love the bass solo on Godzilla), Chicago (Peter Cetera always played tasty stuff), Cream (Jack Bruce - what a player), Living Colour (mostly for the drummer), The Tubes (loved Rick Anderson's stuff, and Prairie Prince's Drumming), Primus (Les is a Bass God).
Alan
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Yay,
Someone finally said Stanley Clarke. Alan, I like just about all of them you mentioned. But Stanley was the one who drew my attention to Alembic. I was really interested in what bass he was playing. 30 years later I have one in my living room.
Does anyone know about a guy who plays (or played) with Buddy Guy. I think his name is Greg Rzab. I believe he owns Jaco's Fender Jazz. I saw a TV show one time with Guy at The Woodlands, TX, outdoors. Rzab was amazing. I'd like to see that one again or at least get a CD with that kind of stuff on it.
Rich
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Heres a deal
Do you guys get HMV music stores in USA and Europe because they have released a Stanley Clarke 3 CD bundle for ?15 about $20. It contains Live at the Greek, School days and East river Drive what a great buy.
Andrew
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I just checked the Website for HMV and the box set does not seem to be there i thought you might have been able to get it over the net but N/M. I am not sure if it is exclusive to HMV or not i will investigate.
Andrew
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I just checked the Website for HMV and the box set does not seem to be there i thought you might have been able to get it over the net but N/M. I am not sure if it is exclusive to HMV or not i will investigate.
Andrew
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When I'm gigging, we cover everything from Melissa Ethridge to Skynyrd to Korn. When I'm at home, I put on one of the Victor Wooten instructional tapes and jam with him. His style and dexterity are truly amazing. My influences are (of course) Stanley Clarke, early Alice Cooper (Dennis Dunaway), Eagles (Timothy Schmidt) and Yes (Chris Squire)
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I play mostly funk/groove/jam experimental stuff, but everything from folk to dub to straight-up rock gets thrown in the mix.
Like John, I've got a couple hundred hours of sound on my computer which I set to random and I'm usually pleased with the results. In heavy rotation are Frank Zappa (Tom Fowler & Arthur Barrow are great), Ry Cooder, King Crimson, Hot Tuna, Nick Drake, John Cale, Ween, Stanley, Jaco, Captain Beefheart, Steely Dan, Jeff Beck, Les Claypool (in varying lineups), Leo Kottke, Al DiMeola, Paco De Lucia, Jean-Luc Ponty, and so on, and so on...
Recent additions that I've been listening to in the car are Roxy Music, ELP, Pere Ubu... Interesting stuff! I have found that generally speaking, the earlier in the artist's recording career, the more I like the music. Ry Cooder's early stuff is some of the best, IMHO.
Adam
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Lately I've been listening to alot of news radio in the car, I hate sitting in traffic so I have to know where those backups are.
Musically I've gone back recently to listening to Bach,Mozart, Prokofiev. Also classic rock.
As a yutte, I was heavily influenced by McCarney,Cetera,Squire,Lake,Entwhisle,Bruce, also early Tull,Genesis,Mahavishnu Orch,Elp, and of course Jaco. I also like some material by Manilow,Denver,and Dylan..I just dont want to hear them sing it.
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In all the mentions of various players, I don't think I have ever seen anyone mention Carl Radle. I have always found him a very subtle and tasty player. He seemed to have that uncanny ability to add or subtract notes without it jumping out at you. Played on a couple of good albums, too
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The first bass playing that I was aware of as a distinct musical entity was Glen Cornick on Stand Up. Then Noel Redding and Greg Lake on the first ELP album.
David B.
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Jethro Tull has always had interesting, creative bass parts. I've often wondered whether Ian Anderson wrote the bass parts or left it up to the bassist. I can almost see it either way. They sound very different from song to song and album to album.
I've always liked the stuff that Greg Lake has done. Sometimes it's all over the place but it fits exactly what the song needs. Not to mention that he sings lead while he's doing it.
I like Dennis Dunaway, too. His look was kind-of cool. He just stood there sometimes; then he leapt off the platform he was on down to the main stage. Cool effect in concert.
Rich
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Rich...I think you're the only person to actually like Dennis Dunaway. I think he was highly underrated. Some of his bass riffs were infectuous. I also enjoyed Ross Valory of Journey's stryle of playing.
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I remember when I was the only person I knew who liked ELP. Friends would say What is this crap? I thought it was genius. I still do. I still play along with Brain Salad Surgery occasionally. Once ('73 or '74) I read a review that stated that Keith Emerson was fast and sloppy. Shortly after that Leonard Bernstein said that Emerson was probably the best young classical pianist at that time. That sort-of shut them up for a while. I wish that I had seen them live. I know people who did and they said it was all you would hope it would be.
A lot of rock bassists didn't get the credit they were due. Dunaway was never going to be the Alice Cooper of the band. But ask any lead guitarist or singer who had been in a band with a bassist or drummer who wasn't rock solid and you'll find out what value we have.
Rich
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Anybody else like Billy Gould from Faith No More? I think he was a really great bassist, he covered so many different styles. He seemed equally adept at pick and fingerstyle, depending on what the music required. I always liked his tone, too. He once said that he tried to make the bass sound like it was almost in pain when he played it. He had a great grunt tone going on live.
For me, Gould is the guy who really made me notice bass and get interested in it. I hope he gets back into playing sometime. He's got his own record company at the moment...
Aside from Gould, Cliff Burton (one time Alembic player), Geddy Lee, Les Claypool, John Taylor, and Scott Reeder from Kyuss.
Jason
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Ah yes, Dennis Dunaway! Billion Dollar Babies is one of my favorites. Nice stuff. And don't anybody forget that Greg Lake played Tarkus at light speed on an 8-string (Alembic, of course) in concert - I struggle with it on a 4-string!
John
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I didn't know that Lake played an Alembic. I never thought much about it. I just know that I like his style.
Rich
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Lake sold an 8 string Alembic to John Entwistle. I think that was JE's first Alembic and first 8 string.
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I saw ELP when they were touring behind 'Brain Salad Surgery' (surely the coolest album cover I ever saw)in 1972. That tour led to the Welcome Back My Friends . . . live album.
At that time I was up for a scholarship in piano to North Texas State, I'd been absorbed in classical piano my entire childhood and knew which end was up. Saw Rubinstein twice. Believe me, Emerson was as good as I ever heard, fast, ballsy, and technically VERY correct in his playing. To my ears he was terrifically Brubeck- and Gershwin-influenced, both guys being technical terrors, NO clams. Even while his Steinway concert levitated over our heads and rotated end over end over end WHILE HE WAS PLAYING !
Carl Palmer is THE great overlooked English art rock drummer, never mentioned with Bruford, Allen White, etc. He was fabulous, as was Lake switching back and forth between guitar and bass thru the show (and he did play his ALEMBIC eight string).
Of course Carl Radle is a fave from Eric's post-Cream, pre-Miami days, and played on the 'Layla' album, with Eric and the late Duane Allman. Listen to the line under the chorus of 'Bell Bottom Blues'.
I firmly plan to be buried with a copy of 'Layla' and the Allmans' 'Live at Fillmore East'. After the Beatles and Motown, those two albums plus 'Who's Next' and 'Exile on Main Street' pretty much cover me.
Plus the West Coast AM singles from the 60s and early 70s with Carol Kaye, Joe Osborne, etc. A real favorite is Dee Murray under Elton's first 10 or 12 albums, with Nigel Ollson drumming. And of course JPJones, and on and on . . .
Then the Southern influences, the blues, the gospel. . . .
And I certainly agree with Tony Levin that bad stuff will creep into your playing from bad records!
J o e y
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I am listening to Mudvayne just now the bass player is pretty damn good i listen to a lot of Stanley Clarke, Charles Mingus, Les Claypool, Sikth, jaco and Vivtor Wooten. I am really keen on Micheal Manring plays his dynamics are amazing.
i really like the way the guy from Faith no more Jason plays as well he is cool.
andrew
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A response from a guitar player:
Favorite musicians are Jerry Garcia, Bruce Cockburn, Ani DiFranco and Bob Marley.
Favorite guitarists are: Jerry Garcia, Bruce Cockburn, Mark Knopfler, Jeff Beck, Muddy Waters, Kelly Joe Phelps, Ani Difranco and Rupert Bent
I play: Acoustic folk/rock/jam/jazz/blues and electric all of the above with reggae and funk mixed in.
AndrewK
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I like any bands and bassists who play good songs and are interesting to listen to. Occasionally, a band has the whole package. A couple that have done it for me are ELP and the early Allman Bros. Brain Salad Surgery is definitely my favorite from ELP although I like just about everything they have done. Fillmore East is my favorite from AB. Berry Oakley really inspires me to be creative and explore and also play what the song needs from the bass.
Joey, do you have the CD of BSS from just a few years ago? It has a new twist on the cover as well as lots of narrative about the making of the album and the story behind the cover.
Rich
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BSS has been playing in my car for the last 2 solid days... good stuff!
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I play BSS whenever I get the chance, mainly when my wife is not at home. She's very tolerant of my musical tastes, but she has her limits. I try not to overload her. My kids (10 and 7) love ELP though. One of these days I'm going to buy Pictures At An Exhibition and Tarkus.
I end up playing bass a lot, along with the stereo, when noone is around. Am I the only one who gets onto a CD or two and plays it for 2 weeks straight?
Rich
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My influences:
John Paul Jones, John Entwistle, Geezer Butler, Geddy Lee, Chris Squire, Boz Burrel, Ross Valory, Jaco, Billy Sheehan, Stu Hamm, the list could go on and on.
as for Favorites.......its hard to say there are so many great bassists, many I haven't even mentioned above anyone that plays unique, inventive, distinct, interesting parts no matter if they are simple or technically over the top like what Michael Manring does.
ELP is great Karnevil #9, and the ABB In Memory of Elizabeth Reed
I'm in more than one band so I mainly listen to what I have to play, new material and go over some older material in between that if some thing catches my ear I'll learn it, and read every bass mag on the planet, play bass along with the stereo as well ;o)
B.
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939:
No, I've not heard this repackage BSS, but I'd like to. Back in my mis-spent youth, BSS and the live album that followed it were a favorite tag team of mine. I always liked how songs morphed once they were played live on the road for a while.
I've often thought the way to REALLY record a new album were to play the tunes on the road, and just at that spot where you're really nailing 'em and haven't got bored with them yet, go in the studio and just mow 'em down. That kind of steam is never devloped any other way.
J o e y
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Maybe not so much a bass influence, but a REAL influence as to what a rock and roll band was supposed to be:
The pre-video J.Geils Band. Peter Wolf fronting, J, Magic Dick, and Seth Justman, and the hammer-like rhythm section of Danny Klein and Steven Jo Bladd. I followed them across 4 dates in Texas in 1972, and they were without a doubt the best live band I ever saw. On Atlantic, naturally, Full House is the most smokin' live album I ever heard, and the double disc Blow Your Face Out is a close second.
Highly recommended for you old-schoolers into what we used to call blues rock. As bracing as warm Thunderbird on a cold night.
Of course, when MTV changed the game, we get into Centerfold, etc., and the wheels came off shortly thereafter.
J o e y
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I have little time to enjoy music at home these days--almost strictly a car activity--so I end up listening to way too much radio; it's like eating lunch at McD's.
You're all going to hate me for this, but an all-acoustic band from Austin, TX called the Asylum Street Spankers is the greatest band in the world right now. They disavowed electricity until last year, when the larger venues they were playing forced their hand to microphones.
Wanna hear NIN's Closer as 30s hot jazz? It's on the list. Country meets hip-hop? Yep. The Hokey Pokey? Are you kidding? Fantastic band.
Other than them, I dig a lot of the non-prog artists already mentioned (Ani's the Queen Bee), plus the legendary Mike Watt. He should be up there with Jaco, Bootsy and Jamerson in my opinion. Nobody working today wrings more expression from four strings or has worked harder for their honor.
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The bass line of Chicago's Dialogue Pt. I is pure genius. I wish Pete Cetera still bothered to play like that. Mel Schacher (?) of Grand Funk did some nice stuff. Tyran Porter's (Doobie Brothers) lines have a lyric bent to them. Kasim Sultan with Utopia played some really great rock bass. The RA album with Kasim is full of splendid bass work. Whoever played bass for Elvis Costello in the early '80s was tough as well. And of course, Stan's Rocks, Pebbles and Sand had some BIG bass sounds. Animal Logic has Stan doing some very restrained-yet-not-restrained stuff. Another Place from their second CD has one of my favorite opening bass riffs. This is a great thread, because it's making me revisit lots of very good music.
John
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Okay, lyrical and expressive ... Jaco's work with Joni Mitchell on Hegira (Refuge of the Road) and Don Juan's Reckless Daughter (his intro to Cotton Avenue); and (various players) sooo many Steely Dan tracks I couldn't list them all.
Mike
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I'm kind of surprised that their aren't more reggae bassists listed, although all that are listed are great. As a guitar player, reggae makes me want to play bass. Burning spear has some great rythm section stuff, and then Cat from Third World plays some really nice bass on Rydim of Life from their album 96 degrees in the shade. With the rythm section so prominent, I figured more of the bassists would into it. Another note, sorry I don't know his name, but will ask my bro, the bassist for the Tony Furtado Band out of Colorado is amazing. He was matching the speed and accuracy that Furtado had finger picking a banjo. Incredible stuff...I'll try to get that guy's name.
(Message edited by andrewknight on December 01, 2004)
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Reggae, yeah! Some great reggae bass albums:
1) Natty Dread by Bob Marley
2) LKJ in Dub by Linton Kwesi Johnson
3) Red by Black Uhuru
4) Marcus Garvey/Garvey's Ghost double album by Burning Spear
The LKJ one is a must...like most reggae there's not much treble to the bass recording but it's clear and bouncy.
EffClef
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I'm not surprised that Alembic people are into every genre of music. I wonder if there are any types of music where you won't find Alembics recorded.
Joey, the Brain Salad Surgery I got is Rhino # R2 72459 reissued in 1996. I asked around in music stores several years ago and was told that BSS wasn't on CD. I gave up on it until one time as a fluke I asked again. The store had one in stock. Man, have I enjoyed it. It's like meeting an old friend you haven't seen in 20 years. The cover on the CD is both the inside front and outside front covers put together. The CD case has one of those oscillating-type, 3D-type things on the cover. I can't really describe it but it is really cool how the 2 covers work together.
It sounds like you and I were running around TX at about the same time. I had a lot of fun and saw a lot of bands in the early '70s.
Rich
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My influences are Grateful Dead, Phish, King Crimson, Primus/Les Claypool, P-Funk, Gov't Mule, ABB, Stanley Clarke, Return to Forever, TOOL, Sonic Youth, Tea Party, YES, Rush and Frank Zappa for the musicianship, but also artists/bands like Guided by Voices, Belle & Sebastian and Drive-By Truckers for the songwriting. There isn't a genre of music that isn't part of my collection actually...
Wilfred
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Wilfred,
With King Crimson as an influence, do you play the Ferguson Stick as well as the bass, or guitar? If so, how long did it take you on the Stick to get to where you were playing well?
Andrew
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Andrew, although I think they're very cool instruments, I'm not playing the Stick (yet), as at first I've got to learn to play the bass properly... ;-) Do you play the Stick?
Wilfred
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Wifred,
Nope I do not, but I saw it played with King Crimson and Fergus Marsh played the Stick at two Bruce Cockburn shows that I saw. I have been interested ever since, but have not made the plunge yet. From reading about it on their website it is not too difficult of a transition. I was fairly amazed by what Fergus Marsh could do with the thing and he also stated to me after the gig that it was pretty easy to learn how to play it. Then again, he is one of those people that might just be good at anything he picks up. During the show he also played the bass, a trumpet and a conch shell.
Andrew
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Hi Wilfred & Andrew
The Chapman Stick is an awesome instrument, I saw one for the first time on American Bandstand when Mathiew Wilder performed in the late 70's I believe, as for how easy it is to play, some guitar and bass techniques don't really apply the same way.
its keyboard like as well, and there are many different tunings ( you can choose from many)
Standard ( classic ) Stick tuning at the 7th fret is (bass strings) ( high to low strings) B, E, A, D, G and ( chord/melody strings) ( low to high strings) C#, F#, B, E, A on a 10 string Stick.
Its like playing a bass backwords while playing a guitar fowards, tapping everything, no picking, you should see Emmet Chapman play, get the Hands Across the Board video, He makes it look effortless, I was blown away when I saw it, like any instrument you have to really dedicate time to it, I play Stick a little, and some keys, and a little gtr but more bass than anything, I wish someday I could play the Stick as good as Emmet or one of the other players I've seen, I don't think I'd ever play any other instrument ever again but the Stick.........
B.
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I played a Chapman stick for a bit in the 1980s and have to say that it was definitely a mind-opening experience. It is fairly easy to get things going on the bass side with a little practice. The first tune I played onstage with it was I Want a New Drug by Huey Lewis, which had a nice ostinato I could get my brain and fingers around. Before too long I was playing masses with it and taking it to jam sessions, but I never did have much luck using the treble side for anything. I simply don't think fast or well enough to not have sounded very distracted. As it turns out, I think my first wife pawned it (and a few basses) to buy acid, but that's another story. Funny thing though, a year or so ago I went to a jam session at a friend's house and a guy was there with an old G&L bass that still had all my stickers on the case from before the ex pawned it out from under me in another state all those years ago. I wish it had been the stick. Go figger...
John
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wow! I guess finding an old friend like that would be a trip...she got her acid too...two trips for one lousy thing to do. If someone saw one of my guitars and could show that it was previously his (without having sold it to me) and had a story like yours, I'd probably hand it over. Not a big follower of kharmic stuff, but some things are just right.
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Paul McCartney is the reason I started playing Bass, I wanted to be a Beatle, I never cared much for his taste in basses, but his playing is outstanding
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David,
You'll appreciate this. The very first thing I ever learned to play was the melody to Yesterday and I spent all day sounding it out on my first bass, a mid-60's Hofner I bought from my older brother for $200. McCartney is a genius. Or some would argue that he at least was at one time. His playing IS outstanding..
Andrew,
It's in good hands. The new owner is relatively young (early 20's) and only beginning to learn how to play music. He knows the history of the instrument now, and is very into becoming a listenable musician. It's all good.
John
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John,
As far as Paul's playing, what a musical imagination he has. Back in the days when most bass parts were just thumping the root note along with the bass drum, Paul was really innovating. He broke open what a bass could do.
I wish I still had all those Beatle cards I got when I was 8. If I had only known.
Rich
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Guys,
my influences?
JE - who else!
Oliver (Spyderman)
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After a long argument about players with a good friend who was a total Geddy Lee disciple, I told him I'd LOVE to be as 'simplistic' as Paul McCartney, and name me anyone who played those lines, that style, on a toy bass like his Hofners, before Paul . . . he couldn't.
Of course, the Dan is a great influence, and it's really mindbending that Walter plays very good bass AND terrific guitar on a lot of their records, especially their latter day releases.
J o e y
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McCartney was also the main reason I learned bass. I religiously learned every album from Revolver on,wor e out several Srgt.Pepper albums. Even had to have a Hofner and a Vox T-60.
Another combination that always amazed me was Terry Kath and Pete Cetera..Kath live was mesmerizing.
Someone else I havent seen mentioned is James Jamerson,who seems to have influenced a great deal of players.