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Title: Dire wolf in dire trouble?
Post by: flaxattack on August 10, 2006, 08:02:35 PM: gotta tell ya
i am so---------------
its back in spray for the umpteenth time
i am disheartened beyond belief....
6 months of repsraying and its still suckin up the finish....

(Message edited by flaxattack on August 10, 2006)
Title: Dire wolf in dire trouble?
Post by: keavin on August 10, 2006, 08:23:30 PM: 'DAMN'..........!!!
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Post by: crgaston on August 10, 2006, 09:00:57 PM: Jeff..

I can't imagine how frustrating that must be. For what it's worth, I'm really sory to hear it. As I've said before, the DW was really what pushed me over the edge (who am I kidding; it lured me from a mile off!) into ordering my own custom. I hope you get your baby back soon.

P.S.
What if they just let it sit in a vat of the liquid finish for a week? ...Soak up THIS, cocobolo!
:-)
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Post by: spliffy on August 11, 2006, 10:58:16 AM: Dude, that absolutely sucks (no pun intended).
If the bass keeps absorbing this spray, will it not end up weighing a ton?
I am still hoping this issue ends for you soon.

Al
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Post by: lbpesq on August 11, 2006, 12:10:52 PM: Flax:

Bummer. I just checked the Vegas odds, and the Scooter Tribute is now a 5-2 favorite to visit the East Coast first! Maybe they should start poking around inside the Wolf looking for the world's smallest black hole ... where can all this finish be going? In the great scheme of things, may this problem be your worst problem. One possible silver lining: If it's ready in October and the A's make the play-offs, you can fly out to pick her up and I'll get you to a play-off game.

Bill, tgo
Title: Dire wolf in dire trouble?
Post by: flaxattack on August 11, 2006, 10:48:37 PM: spoke to val today
its not so much that its sucking the finish
its not allowing the finish to adhere to the wood due to the oilyness of this coocoobolo
- he said they have never had a piece of coco behave like this and they may opt to go with an oil finish instead if it continues to behave so rudely- now if someone knows a oil finished bass in here..... show me the way please
Title: Dire wolf in dire trouble?
Post by: crgaston on August 11, 2006, 11:29:52 PM: Bob's has an oil finish...

http://club.alembic.com/Images/411/16123.html?1107342100 (http://club.alembic.com/index.php?topic=8566)
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Post by: lbpesq on August 12, 2006, 09:12:27 AM: I love oil finishes!

Bill, tgo
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Post by: flaxattack on August 12, 2006, 02:52:32 PM: im impressed
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Post by: 811952 on August 13, 2006, 07:57:14 AM: I love oil finishes too!

John
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Post by: Bradley Young on August 13, 2006, 03:59:09 PM: Just postulating here, but since the rest of the bass isn't afflicted (just the area around the inlay), I wonder if it isn't the edge of the cutout for the inlay leaking oil.

I wonder is there would be a good way to seal that, e.g. superglue it.

Maybe they already did.

Bradley
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Post by: applejuice on August 13, 2006, 04:58:38 PM: That's terrible, I hope the wood starts letting the finish hold. If not, I bet the wolf would look just as mean with an oil finish.
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Post by: flaxattack on August 14, 2006, 05:03:09 AM: its in the grains not a result of the inlay placement

im starting to think so to apple
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Post by: bassman10096 on August 14, 2006, 08:56:08 AM: Have you discussed a nitro finish? I had great luck drying nitro on cocobolo when nothing else would work. It's less durable, to be sure, but maybe on par with oil.
Title: Dire wolf in dire trouble?
Post by: flaxattack on August 14, 2006, 02:20:58 PM: no nitro for me
spoke to val
one more try on the spray and he has my ok to go to oil.
Title: Dire wolf in dire trouble?
Post by: lbpesq on August 14, 2006, 05:29:31 PM: Flax:

I visited DW and Scooter today. The Tribute looks just awesome, absolutely LOVE the wood. Wolf, as always, is quite the looker too. Susan told me they would like to avoid the oil finish on cocobolo as it isn't nearly as protective with the dark oily woods.

Bill, tgo
Title: Dire wolf in dire trouble?
Post by: adriaan on August 15, 2006, 02:20:49 AM: Probably a stupid idea, but if nitro seals the cocobolo, then can't they start with layers of nitro and cover that with the regular finish?

Another hare-brained idea - the problem area is the outer border of the inlay, right? As it seems to be related to the varying levels of absorption between neighbouring materials, perhaps they could add an outline with a contrast wood, or perhaps a ring in silver or brass or something - just to change the transition.
Title: Dire wolf in dire trouble?
Post by: flaxattack on August 15, 2006, 04:01:42 PM: lets can the nitro idea ok
thought i said that above!

thanks for the heads up bill- susan knows best...
how bout replacing the top wood?
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Post by: Bradley Young on August 15, 2006, 06:29:15 PM: Jeff,

If you go with nitro, don't ever tell the TSA, or you won't be able to get on the plane. It just sounds dangerous!

Of course oil is a fluid...

Bradley
Title: Dire wolf in dire trouble?
Post by: spliffy on August 16, 2006, 05:01:33 AM: At this point in time it seems strange that Alembic did not just replace the top laminate that is giving you the trouble? You spend thousands on a custom bass and you have to endure this crap! Yes I know it is the wood and Alembic are doing what they can but if the wood is not taking in the finish the first 50 times, why would anyone think it will do it after the next 50 times.
Enough is enough!
Title: Dire wolf in dire trouble?
Post by: flaxattack on August 16, 2006, 07:07:51 PM: spliffy
lets calm down dude.....
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Post by: ajdover on August 16, 2006, 09:53:58 PM: Flax, I was at the Mothership today, and took these photos of the Dire Wolf. It looks to me like the finish is holding at this point, but I am not the expert. It looks beautiful, smooth, and like new. I didn't take it off the wall, but looked at it closely. Hopefully the problem is solved, and the Wolf will be back on it's way to you soon. Just wanted to share the pics. Alan
(http://club.alembic.com/Images/449/30678.jpg)

(http://club.alembic.com/Images/449/30679.jpg)

(http://club.alembic.com/Images/449/30680.jpg)
(Message edited by davehouck on August 17, 2006)
Title: Dire wolf in dire trouble?
Post by: jacko on August 17, 2006, 01:39:53 AM: Fingers crossed Jeff. This has indeed been a long strange trip.

Graeme
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Post by: flaxattack on August 17, 2006, 10:10:29 AM: thanks!!!!!!!
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Post by: Bradley Young on August 17, 2006, 07:40:36 PM: Dude,

Every time I see that wolf, it always seems cooler than I remembered it.

Brad
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Post by: spliffy on August 18, 2006, 05:48:06 AM: Jeff, I am calm! Mellow in fact, I just have different expectations than you do I guess.
Al
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Post by: bassfingers on August 18, 2006, 11:29:55 AM: Well Jeff,here's hoping your patience and good faith are rewarded very soon.

Simon.
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Post by: palembic on August 19, 2006, 01:23:15 AM: There will be the fight of the titans when Dire wolf comes back home. Jeff has this gorgeous Tribute bass on order so ...let's see, which bass will be the favourite? Obviously ...he will not be able to play two basses the same time ...though ....I've seen Michael Manring do that.
Time to practise new chops Jeff!

Paul TBO
Title: Dire wolf in dire trouble?
Post by: flaxattack on August 30, 2006, 03:58:04 PM: YEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

THE WOLF WILL BE BACK HOME FRIDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!

:-)
:-)
:-)
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Post by: tbrannon on August 30, 2006, 04:06:48 PM: Congratulations~

Did they end up going with the oil finish or did the Wolf stop sucking? =)
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Post by: crgaston on August 30, 2006, 04:44:54 PM: WOOT!!!
Title: Dire wolf in dire trouble?
Post by: dadabass2001 on August 30, 2006, 05:04:42 PM: ...crossing my fingers and knocking on plywood furniture,
Best of Luck! I hope you're able to enjoy the Wolf this time.
Mike
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Post by: applejuice on August 30, 2006, 05:14:26 PM: sweet.
Title: Dire wolf in dire trouble?
Post by: flaxattack on August 30, 2006, 05:48:44 PM: no oil......
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Post by: olieoliver on August 30, 2006, 07:00:13 PM: That's great man.

Gonna' be a LOOOOONG Thursday though.
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Post by: alemberic on August 30, 2006, 10:31:02 PM: Flax--here's hoping Dire Wolf is home to stay! I actually saw DW in the Alembic shop during one of my visits there back in June. It is one cool-looking bass. Best of luck!

Eric
Title: Dire wolf in dire trouble?
Post by: jacko on August 31, 2006, 01:41:08 AM: That's fantastic news Jeff. Let's hope that's the problem solved. I'm expecting to see a whole bunch of basses hit Ebay next week when you decide you don't ever want to play anything but Alembic. Dibs on the NS ;-)

Graeme
Title: Dire wolf in dire trouble?
Post by: David Houck on August 31, 2006, 12:09:14 PM: As Graeme said, great news!!
Title: Dire wolf in dire trouble?
Post by: flaxattack on August 31, 2006, 03:08:43 PM: ya know graeme
absoluteley correct
i will probably put up the steinberger, washburn solid body 5 and maybe the washburn hollow 5-
if anyone is interested email me
Title: Dire wolf in dire trouble?
Post by: lbpesq on August 31, 2006, 04:20:07 PM: Jeff:

Great news on the Wolf. I saw it on Tuesday. Looked real good - no bubbles. You're not going to sell the titty bass, are you? Have you thought about hanging onto the Steinberger for airline travel?

Bill, tgo
Title: Dire wolf in dire trouble?
Post by: flaxattack on August 31, 2006, 06:19:03 PM: (Message edited by flaxattack on August 31, 2006)
Title: Dire wolf in dire trouble?
Post by: flaxattack on August 31, 2006, 06:20:36 PM: i cant play 4s anymore bill-lol i get lost thinkin the e is the b
i dont think i could recover what i paid for the titty bass...
the only 4s i plan on keeping is the eko, the 68 gibson eb2d and the hodad
Title: Dire wolf in dire trouble?
Post by: 57basstra on August 31, 2006, 06:41:36 PM: titty bass?
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Post by: bassman10096 on September 01, 2006, 11:09:17 AM: Great news about the finish. It's a beautiful bass. Good luck. (Titty bass?)
Bill
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Post by: hankster on September 01, 2006, 11:34:36 AM: You will find that bass Here (http://club.alembic.com/index.php?topic=12841)

Rick
Title: Dire wolf in dire trouble?
Post by: flaxattack on September 01, 2006, 02:35:11 PM: THE WOLF HAS LANDED!!!!!!!!!!!

i got you back in my arms again
right by my side....

man i forgot how gorgeous he is....
let the snarling begin!!!!!!1

look out ebay here i come
anyone interested in a rick turner fretless 4?
i forgot that one......
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Post by: Bradley Young on September 01, 2006, 03:09:40 PM: Pics on the Turner?

Bradley
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Post by: flaxattack on September 01, 2006, 03:32:34 PM: (http://club.alembic.com/Images/449/31064.jpg)
soft case
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Post by: FC Bass on September 01, 2006, 03:36:55 PM: Congrats!
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Post by: ctjim on September 04, 2006, 12:27:11 PM: Flax good to hear the finish problem is taken
care of and that DW is back... enjoy
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Post by: bsee on September 04, 2006, 12:37:07 PM: It's great that oil didn't have to happen. I can't believe that oil and an inlay would have worked well long term. Any oiled bass I've had has always darkened over time. The inlay should stay so much more vibrant for years with a proper sealing coat.