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Connecting => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: echo008 on November 18, 2006, 09:21:08 PM
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Just listening to some stuff I have not heard in a while ....
for example, I just listened to Steeley Dan's Katy Lied The tone/solos on Black Friday are just blowing me away not to mention songs like Bad Sneakers Rose Darling Any World Etc!!!! I cant believe how raw and delicious the sound is. One of my all time favorite albums all together.
When Black Friday comes
I'm gonna dig myself a hole
Gonna lay down in it 'til
I satisfy my soul
Gonna let the world pass by me
The Archbishop's gonna sanctify me
And if he don't come across
I'm gonna let it roll
Come and share some of your favorite albums and songs I really want to know what you are listening to these days?
- Tom
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I've been getting off on some of the crazy sounds Frank Zappa had in the early '70s. Like the Willie the Pimp solo on Fillmore East, June 1971 - sounds like it was split with one kind of clean and one with an envelope filter and distortion - easier to hear on headphones. Oh, and recently I picked up the original vinyl release which has more of the solo - Frank severely edited it when he remastered it for CD.
And the solo stuff on the Son of Orange County - Trouble Every Day medley on Roxy & Elsewhere too. Great tone, tweaked playing. The rest of the album isn't bad either...
Well I'm about to get sick, from watchin' my T.V.
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Steeley Dan = Skunk Baxter! They've used other guitarists but he jams on an awful lot of tunes SD has done. I like the combination of Steve Morse and Andy West of the Dixie Dregs.
Ever hear of Monk Montgomery. Bassist from the 70's and 80's that had some very pioneering sounds like on Bass Oddessy.
As far as sounds Randy Roades, Frank Zappa, Steve Vai, Satriani, or go the other direction to SRV, Hendrix, BB King,Doc Watson.
I like it all!
NLP
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I must say that I keep coming back to Katy Lied for some reason. Mostly I like the old stuff... alot of Stevie Wonder back in the Master Blaster days and Songs in the Key of Life... right now though I have Attics of my Life turned up Way loud!!! Dead til I die!
yes I like it all to
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Willie the pimp - Architypal track - Big Zappa Fan
Anyone into Stevie Ray Vaughn's version - also an amazing track!
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I actually just got a SRV box set a little while back, have not really had the chance to sit down with it yet but off the top .... Lenny/Texas Flood/ Pride and Joy and Couldn't stand the weather.... WOW!
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I love Carlos Santana's tone. Especially on the Moonflower album. There are some amazingly warm and sweet and melodic sounding solo's on that album.
Also his solo album, the name evades me at the moment the name Onenesscomes to mind but not sure.
But I remember a track on the album with the lyric or name of Life is just a passing parade, the guitar tone on that solo on there is incredible.
(Message edited by jazzyvee on November 19, 2006)
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Carlos Rios has an incredible guitar tone on the track Cool Weasel Boogie on the first Chick Corea Elektric band album.
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I'm listening to old school stuff like GCS (larry graham)tower of power,old steely Dan,lot's of Classic rock mostly, 70's & I keep my radio tuned to the old school stations at all times!
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Probably my all time favourite guitar tone is Robin Trower on Bridge of Sighs.
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I'd have to say my favorite single song for guitar tone would have to be, Europa. Carlos Santana has an incredible sound on that tune.
Of course anything by SRV or the Allman Bros are great raw guitar sounds.
Now for compressed to the max, 42 different effects loops patched in, I my take some heat for this one, Boston's first album. Tom Shultz's sound turned a few guitar ears.
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Olie:
I just logged on to this thread to add Santana's Europa, and then saw your post! Great minds, etc!
Also, Jerry on St. Stephen/The Eleven from Live/Dead.
Bill, tgo
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OOPs Double Post
- Tom
(Message edited by echo008 on November 19, 2006)
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I have to mention Los Lobos, they seem to be under rated... Colossal Head is a fantastic album. Great warm raw tones coming from them Gibsons
I have not yet picked up there latest, but I had a chance to see them this summer at an outdoor show and they are the sh*t.
- Tom
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I never go too long without listening to the Dead, but always have other things I'm stuck on - the Dead is a constant, the others change every few weeks. Right now I'm interspersing their 8-8-82 show at Alpine Valley (John Cipollina and Zakir Hussain sat in - I was there, and it was great) with a lot of Danny Gatton (mostly Portraits & Unfinished Business), and Junior Brown (Semi Crazy & Guit With It)- completely different, but all phenomonal.
Peter
(Message edited by Cozmik_Cowboy on November 19, 2006)
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James Burton's tele on Gram Parsons' Grievous Angel.
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I always get chills from Phil Manzanera's guitar playing. 801 Live is the most studio sounding live recording I have ever heard, and it was made in the late 70's. Simon Phillips, Brian Eno are also amazing on that record. I first saw Adrian Belew when he toured with Zappa, and he left me stunned. Same thing when Adrian plays with King Crimson. I forget to breath and become oxygen deprived.
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Steve Gaines, 'nuff said.
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i think kurt rosenwinkel has my all time favorite guitar tone. not only is he one of the greatest guitar players in the history of the instrument, particularly in 'jazz' oriented stuff, but he gets this amazing tone by singing every note he plays, dead on as far as pitch goes.
if you've never heard him play, you're doing your ears a great disservice.
austin
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Ry Cooder and Manuel Galban on Mambo Sinuendo.
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I'll add Steve Kimock and David Lindley. I love that clean Fender-like tone.
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Should have had Bill Frisell on my previous post as well.
Peace
Tom
(Message edited by tom_z on November 19, 2006)
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Not sure what my all time favorite is but I have always enjoyed Brian May's tone...
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(wow, Kurt Rosenwinkel and Bill Frisell, two names I never expected to see on this forum! I'm not sure how I'd rate them specifically on guitar tone, don't think about that much other than liking theirs, but as musicians and composers, these are the two guitarists I would put at the top of my personal list today, possibly with the nod to Rosenwinkel for his creativity, but that's a tough call.)
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I love Jimmy Page's solo in Tangerine. The fuzz is a great contrast to the rest of the song (great bass line, too).
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Bob; I get a big smile on my face any time I see Gram Parson's name show up in a thread!
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Right on, Dave - me too.
Rick
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Favourite guitar tone? Dave Gilmour on pretty much anything but especially Another Brick... and Comfortably Numb. Peter Green on anything at all. A great deal of Thin Lizzy, particularly Scott's stuff; Dancing in the Moonlight springs to mind. Andy Latimer (Camel) on Lunar Sea on Moonmadness(I love that solo so much!); Huw Lloyd Langton on Live '79 by Hawkwind. Ritchie Blackmore when he switches to his neck pickup and probably loads more; John Frusciante gets some lovely fragile tones. Oh, Bill Connors on Stanley's Life Suite.
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AC/DC- High Voltage and Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap
Grateful Dead- Everything has amazing guitar tones
Dream Theater- A Change of Seasons
Ozzy Osbourne- Goodbye to Romance
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I'm with bigbadbill on his Gilmour and Andy Latimer picks. Wow, someone besides me and a couple friends remember Camel!
Robert Fripp's so-distorted-it's-silky-smooth sound in the opening section of Starless from Red (and many other places over the years).
The late Jimmy Honeyman-Scott of the original Pretenders on Kid
Gary Moore pretty much anywhere; Jimmy Page on Achilles' Last Stand, Ritchie Blackmore on the original studio version of Highway Star.
Carlos Santana on all of Caravanserai. Steve Hillage in his Gong days.
Man there's lots of great stuff on this thread. Obviously Alembicians have good taste.
Paul
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Not to sound redundant, but Ive been listening to a lot of Dan, Dead & Floyd lately...
Skunk, Denny Dias, & Larry Carlton on The Royal Scam....
Garcia & Lesh '73-'74 era (I love Jerry's wah tone in Playin'/Dark Star/Other One jams of this era)
Gilmour & Waters~ Ive been listening to the '71 BBC Rock Hour release a lot lately. Fat Old Sun & Echos..... Thats the way I like Fenders to sound!
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Mark Knopfler - I dig his tone on the album Sailing to Philadelphia Great playing of course as well very tasteful.
Especially songs like Whos your baby now and Junkie Doll and *I LOVE the use of Tremelo on
The Last Laugh not to mention Van Morrison sharing the vocals.
- Tom
(Message edited by echo008 on November 25, 2006)
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double post - sorry
(Message edited by Yggdrasil on November 27, 2006)
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For sheer tone, the electric guitarists that come to mind are Robin Trower (he seems to manage to meld a fat bass tone with guitar), Terje Rypdal, James Mankey (Concrete Blonde),Peter Green, Mick Taylor, Sonny Landreth, Roy Buchanan,Steve Kimock,Pete Cosey (Miles mid 70s) Fripp, Santana, Hendrix.
Frisell,Ry Cooder & Jorma all bring great tone to whatever they do, but are so versatile & wide-ranging in their music that tone isn't the first characteristic that comes to mind.
(Message edited by Yggdrasil on November 27, 2006)
(Message edited by Yggdrasil on November 27, 2006)
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I just ran across this old clip of Bill Frisell, solo on an SG. Thought it might fit in here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRU9GNot1ZE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRU9GNot1ZE)
Peace
Tom
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For killer guitar tone, I don't think we can overlook the late, great John Cipollina. His amazing rig can be seen here:
http://www.johncipollina.com/rock.html (http://www.johncipollina.com/rock.html)
(I love the line about rodent-gnawing distortion!) It can be heard to particularly great effect on the Mona/Maiden Of The Cancer Moon/Calvary medley on Happy Trails (dubbed by no less an expert than Jerome J. Garcia as the most pyschedelic album ever recorded.)
Peter
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(http://club.alembic.com/Images/449/33793.jpg)Massive Ass Rig!!!
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Also served to alert any 18 wheelers of radar traps up the road :-)
In the sixties and seventies people had to be creative to get more sound because the technology just wasn't there yet to support the sounds they were hearing in their heads!
I love it! I used two EV voice of the theater cabs with horns. They're still in my basement!
NLP
(Message edited by inthelows on November 27, 2006)
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Also served to alert any 18 wheelers of radar traps up the road :-)
NLP
double post..hate when that happens!
(Message edited by inthelows on November 27, 2006)
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I thought I recognized John Cipollina's SG. Then I went back and read the prior post instead of just looking at the piccy.
The amp rig is pretty out there!
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I remember reading John had a tri-amped rig (crossed over low - mid - high), but never saw it until now. Mighty awesome!
Mike
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It's actually bi-amped - sort of. He wired the SG (IIRC, he did all his own work, including the cool inlay & groovy batwing pickguards) so the neck p/up fed the 2 Standel solid state bass amps, and the bridge p/up fed the Twin Reverb & Dual Showman head w/horns. You only need to hear one note to say that's John.
Peter
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i was just listening to one of my new favorite guitar players, Jonathan Kreisberg, and i thought i'd mention him here, because his tone is gorgeous.
If you haven't heard him yet, you should really check him out. My favorite stuff is from a record called Nine Stories Wide with larry grenadier and bill stewart.
just a suggestion.
(edit: i saw that inthelows mentioned monk montgomery, and i didn't notice a reply. BUT, monk was the great guitarist wes's brother, and as the story goes, the recipient of leo fender's first electric)
austin
(Message edited by darkstar01 on November 28, 2006)
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OK, how 'bout the Steve's?
Steve Howe - YES
Steve Hackett - Genesis
Steve Rothery - Marillion
Rothery has a sound that is a cross between Hackett and David Gilmour that I find really pleasing.
Ken (TEO)
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Good call Ken. I have some old video footage of Marillion playing Forgotten Sons live and Rothery sounds incredible; he's using a Yamaha SG with what look like DiMarzios in it. As for the other 2, Yes and Genesis from ATTWT backwards are 2 of my absolute favourite bands of all time...in fact Yes are arguably my favourite, although Seconds Out is probably my most played album. Regarding my earlier mention of Andy Latimer and Dave Gilmour, Moonmadness is probably my favourite album of all time, with Wish You Were Here there or thereabouts.
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Don't think I'm adding much new but I saw Brian May's name up there an have to agree. Also, Mark Knopfler on Sultans of Swing is one of my favorites for tone quality though there are a couple points there in the solos where I wish he'd had a little more sustain. Nuno Bettencourt on Extreme's 3rd album had incomparable tone.
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I was doing a little reading on Jimi Hendrix and found it interesting that two of his favorite guitarist were, Terry Kath and Billy Gibbons.
Very different styles but both very good players.
In fact that got me to bust out my CTA and Chicago II CD's. Some pretty incredible guitar work on both.
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Well, to add someone whom I always am attracted to, Chet Atkins. 'nuff said
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Chet was deffinately a great player Roger. There are a lot of overlooked players in the country scene. Roy Clark, Merle Haggard, Steve Warriner just to name a few.
These guys don't really get rocognized as guitar players too much but I've seen them all live and was very impressed with their skills. All 3 of the above play several different instruments too.
Probably the fastest clean guitar I've ever heard though was PeeWee Oliver. Played a 4 string tenor guitar (mandolin was his first instrument) and walked circles around guys on a 6 string.
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Well, for rock tones it has to be;
Leslie West on Mississippi Queen (studio version)
Leslie again on the live version of dream sequence---the last 2 chords of his solo part are still the most powerful I've EVER heard.
Paul Kossoff on the Free Tons of Sobs album.
SRV playing Little Wing
Roy Buchanan on Wayfaring Pilgrim.
Jeff Beck on Because we've ended as lovers
For grunge bass;
Jack Bruce on The Clearout
So many more beautiful bass tones-too numerous to mention, but Stanley's tone on a song where he sings Hail, Space warrior, you have come a long way springs to mind.
Just my $0.02
George
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Since Georgie's added bass tone to the thread, allow me to tip my hat to Phil Lesh for Mama Tried off Skeleton and Roses - my favorite bass tone of all time. I've been known to listen that to song 3-4 times back-to-back just to marvel over that tone. There's a quality to it that no one else gets, and I've never heard Phil get as strongly as here. I fear I lack the language to describe it adequately, but the word that comes to mind is bouncey. I don't know how tone can be bouncey, but I guess that's why he's Phil Lesh and I'm not.
Peter