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Connecting => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: olieoliver on June 18, 2009, 10:20:38 PM
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Driving to work this morning I happened to catch Thick As a Brick on Sirius. Man I can't tell you how many times I listened to this 8 track, yes I did say 8 track, riding around with my best friend in his '68 Camaro with a cigarette in my left-hand trying to get lost..........
.......MAN!!!! I miss the 70's.
Better get to bed I have to go to work 6 hours.
OO
Love that song!
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olie..I know what you mean, I have been downloading 70's UK single tunes from info from a Website which lists every top 40 single from the birth of the charts.
Some of those tunes bring back some great memories..life was simpler then..do we sound like old crocks here???
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I love Thick as a Brick very much too. I've just listened it last week.
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I did check out Jethro Tull a few months ago in Helsinki, It was really good. They did play at the same place House Of Culture almost 40 years ago, Ian Anderson and Martin Barre.
I forgot how good Ian Anderson was with his flute, he is real master. The whole concert was great?sounded like the group was born yesterday. The same kind of spirit???. it was a trip to the -70\s but still sounding fresh?.
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Tull' Teacher kinda set the stage for my high school daze.
This was one of the first bass licks I learned and I believe it rather colored and influenced my style of playing.
I think it was intended as a B-side throwaway song.
ahhh the 70s......Is this the real life or is this just fantasy?
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I just tried out for a 70s hard rock band - Zep, Sabbath, Purple, Lizzy. It was fun learning the bass lines to songs I've listened to a million times but never played. If I get the gig its going to be great fun assembling a rig to replicate the beautiful warm recorded sound of most of that stuff. Hopefully I won't have to lug a refrigerator.
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I'd consider playing in a 70?s cover band if given the chance, I might even surprise myself at how many of the song I remember how to play. But I?d ideally love to play in a Motown cover band! Now that?d be fun for a bass player!
OO
Really don't mind if you sit this one out....
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Well I guess I'll get in on this one, AS far as covering tunes go, I played and sang Minstrel in the gallery, Locomotive breath, Aqualung and thick as a brick, we did for the fun and challenge of it.
I seen Tulll perform maybe 8 times and met Martin once and Ian Anderson suppose to own I believe some kind of Trout Farms in Scotland and Hatchery, But as far as Passion goes in his playing..there is none better then he..for he is the Flute Master! loved the flute tone in Cross eyed mary from Aqualung album.
The 70's were great and I did have the honors once while my band was playing a gig, that Richie Blackmore sat in with us and I got to perform and sing Highway Star and Smoke on the Water with him, it was fun, jammin and Loud Rock ! I love the power and dynamics of the 70's but Tull was the Masters of dynamics from the soft acoustic passages to Ian and Martin rockin it out,mmmmmm I love the smooth tone of Hiwatt's
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Cross Eyed Mary! I forgot all about that tune. I have that LP at hhome some where. Aqualung was the 2nd LP I ever bought, Chicago II was my first!
Who would be a poor man, a beggarman, a thief....
OO
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Jeffrey Hammond had some cool lines on that LP too. I think he was pick-user too!
OO
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I always enjoyed Living in the Past. I was spoiled having a singer who played flute, sax and harmonica. Made for a much more interesting band than just the usual guitars.
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I was always lucky too Bob in that most bands I played with always had guys that were multi talented. Don't recall ever having a flautist, until now at church, to work with though. That would be cool though!
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Stand Up is still my favourite Tull album - I think it is very complete and well rounded - great joi de vivre that I don't think they ever really matched. Glenn Cornick is a hugely underrated bassist - his playing was it its peak on Stand Up - and a chordal bass solo 6 years before School Days. And Clive Bunker's drumming was great too.
BTW Glenn's next band Wild Turkey put out a couple of great albums too.
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Saw Tull......and was at one time.......even offered a job when Glen left.
Glenn was amazing IMHO....his tone was superb, and he was one of the lucky ones who could get clear high notes out of a Gibson bass!!
Listen to the sound/playing on Bouree
I believe.it may have been recorded with a Burns Black Bison bass
One of my all time favourite sounds.
G
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I loved Tull's first four albums:
This Was
Stand Up
Benefit
Aqualung
Bill, tgo
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Got them all!
Just been searching for them....but can't find any of them.
Will keep looking........clasic stuff!!
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How does someone named Jethro Tull become rock star?
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Is this a old people thread?
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Come to think of it from '75 to '79 I was in a herb induced coma, so I literally did miss that part of the 70's. ;)
OO
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LOL. FJJ made me think about Owen Wilson's line in Armageddon about Tull.
OLD PEOPLE! OOh I'm in the wrong place then.
OO
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Tull was an agricultural pioneer and the inventor of the seed drill. Jethro Tull was born in 1674.
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That's fitting, a lot of people that listen to Tull are definately into some sort of agriculture and seeds are a problem. ;)
OO
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Why are my ears itching? hehehehe
Bill, tgo
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I guess it has something to do with how you think of it, but, to me, seed drill has sexual connotations. Somehow I think that didn't escape Mr. Anderson's attention, but I'm just guessing here... Or, maybe my mind's in the gutter.
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Olie..I was in a '70's' band..I got sacked from them and let me tell you they didn't play classics..they played all the dross and crap that was in the charts in the UK..and I mean bottom of the barrel for 80% of the songs.
I did it for the money only..it was bloody hard work for me.
I once said to the singer 'why don't we do some Motown' his answer..'we don't 'cos it's crap' I told him to get a musical education!
Now a Motown covers band..that is to die for!!
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terryc,
The more that you tell us about that bunch the more it seems that you are better off with out them_____
Now you can pursue what better fits your own musical inclinations.
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Ben, It wasn't Ian's mind that was in the gutter but his love was in the sink!
OO
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I once said to the singer 'why don't we do some Motown' his answer..'we don't 'cos it's crap'
I bet the schmuck never saw The Commitments, one of my all-time favorite music movies. (HIGHLY recommended for those who have not yet seen it. Follow the formation, trials and tribulations of a Dublin Soul band).
Bill, tgo
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Bil I have a great Idea. The next time we both are attending an Alembic-Festival, let's put together a Mowtown set. That would be a BLAST!
OO
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I recommend The Commitments too; very cool movie!
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Old people thread!!!!!!!!!!! Wait....
what was I talking about? Oh,
Too Old to Rock 'n' Roll: Too Young to Die!
(For those of you who do not know....look it up. To those who do know....Rock On!
Still looking for that blue jean, baby queen
Prettiest girl I ever seen
See her shake on the movie screen, Jimmy Dean
(James Dean)
And where do we go from here
Which is the way that's clear
Still looking for that blue jean, bathing queen
Prettiest girl I ever seen
See her shake on the movie screen, Jimmy Dean
Jimmy Dean
Rock on
Rock on
Rock on
(James Dean, not the sausage man.)
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A Motown festival at at Alembic gathering, if that comes off I am going to spend some of my matured investment and get an airline ticket and come over and see you guys.
I have(along with about 10 folders of songs) in my attic the Motown story song book..I bought it 30 years ago for pennies in a sale..it has yet to be used in anger.
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SUGGESTIONS PLEASE!!!!
What are some good covers you Alembic folks do?
I just joined a classic rock cover band with some very talented instrumental/vocal guys. We have (1)drums, (2)bass, (3)guitar (lead/rhythm), and (4)guitar/keys (lead/rhythm guitar, backup/lead organ/horns/strings,etc.) Everyone sings lead and backups.
The guys already have a pretty good list of songs to do but are open to suggestions. They like to do hits and other great songs that people don't necessarily know.
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Rich
BTW, we play an opening act set for a few thousand people in about 4 hours. Should be fun.
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Work To Do by Average White Band
next?
Mike
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I thought 'Work to Do' was an Isley Bros song, Maceo Parker did a nice version
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The only Motown song I know is What's Going On. I was in the psychedelic phase during Motown's heyday and didn't appreciate it as much as now.
I can't even imagine trying to listen to Thick as a Brick on 8 track. That had to be frustrating. 8 tracks would drive me mad. I was so glad when cassettes came along. I loved it on record though, late at night feeling just right. Great album.
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did anyone ever listen to Uriah Heep, Gypsy or any of there other stuff
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Speaking of The Commitments, they have a couple of CD's out, The Commitments and The Commitments, Vol2. that feature pretty much all the music from the movie. They came to Portland in '96 and I went to see them. Three or four members of the band were cast members from the movie and the music was awesome!
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Sweet Lorraine let the party carry on!
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I used to have the Demons & Wizards album by Uriah Heep. That's been many moons ago though!.
OO
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I owned Salisbury by U H. It was on regular rotation on my turntable for a few years before it disappeared into the mists of the late 70s.
Mike
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What about the crazy vocal harmonies and lead on Bird of prey
Nothing cheap about the Heep, they were a victim of label issues of the label trying to tell them what to play...oh yeah Rainbow Demon and killer high vocals on Sunrise. but I too dug the organ overdrive in Gypsy
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Was one of the first tunes I learnt was 'Gypsy'
Awesome riff..
One of the lesser renowned bands of the 70's, overshadowed by Black Sabbath, Led Zep, Deep Purple etc but and excellent band!
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I was in a 70's band but it was the 70's.also the 60's.
Enough about old people.I prefer disgruntled old fart.
The first song I ever played in public was Midnight hour (Rascals) in 1964.
Chuck...D.O.F.
ps. turned 65 last week and still rockin.
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This is an old friend of mine from Connecticut if you like the 70's then this is a Tribute like no other that is a must see, Jeff's got a great voice and he does manage to get the message across..Enjoy and don't forget to select HQ great recording very clean audio
p.s. feel free to post any comments and for those of you who have DAW computer/home studio's, get your favorite Beverage or whatever..and select HQ full screen and CRANK IT UP!
(Message edited by john judge on June 22, 2009)
(Message edited by john judge on June 22, 2009)
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Keep on Rockin', Chuck!
Your era was the one that put the Rock in Rock-n-Roll.
Everyone is as young as their heart and soul allows them to be. Everyone has something to learn and everyone has something to teach.
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Oh yeah check out Ian Anderson's moves in that clip
he truly is the Passion Play!
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John, That clip made me misty-eyed, Please tell Jeff he made a new fan with that song. I'm going to pass the link to my friends, because it should be shared!
Thanks again,
Mike
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I miss Parliament.
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Glad you liked it Mike, it really does hit home and make you wonder what happened to life and the music industry and you can see why so many Indie labels have surfaced, this video gives you a reality check of something or some part of life we all let go of or have let slip away!
P.S. the making of Woodstock movie is coming out on August 15 40 years after it all began with premier showing at the Bethel theatre for about $950.00 a seat before it hits the streets
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I miss Bloodrock
Bloodrock II, great record
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This thread has been a trip down Amnesia Lane for me. Now I'm thinking of all the money iTunes is going to get from me tonight. Thanks!
Larry
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There are some things I don't miss about the 70's.
DISCO!! YAK!
Don't miss it at ALL.
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Disco put me out of work for a long time and then Rock & roll was suppose to make a come back and never really did until 1985 I called it the retirement fund started by Kiss , when disco came out I went from Edgar to Johnny winter to Rick Derringer and then out of work for a while but was offered many Disco show band Jobs.. my reply was NO THANKS! To think I could of been a member of KC & the Sunshine Band!
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Do alotta drugs, spend a lotta cash, Get Down Tonight
(not recomended)
Mike
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I don't miss leisure suits.
I do miss Winterland and Jerry.
Bill, tgo
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I have awesome memories about Winterland from working shows there for BGP. I will never forget the Howard Roberts story that Jerry told me. Yeah_____I miss Winterland too.
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well I didn't mind the disco stuff but it was the quality disco I preferred( I know a lot of you are going say what quality)
Chic, EWF, early Michael Jackson, Bros Johnson, and funk of course, very early Kool & The Gang, not that crap they did in the late 70's early 80's, Parliament, Crown Heights Affair. These were the good ones as opposed to some of the disco rubbish that was out there.
Bernard Edwards was a great bass player, how many samples are there of 'Good Times'..thousands of 'em.
Some of those bands were a bass players dream to play(if you like that sort of thang!!)
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Well Terry I will agree with you on the fact there was some good Funk players like Louis Johnson had the thumb for popin riffs, but I just never got the night fever of BeeGeeitousor doing the Hustle! (sick Dance) I mean if I want to listen to some good synced out Funk then there is one band that gets that feeling going for me especially the Bass and that's Rocko
Tower of Power, check out there live version of Soul Vaccination off of Tower of Power Live, Tight as a machine that needs no oiling on the Chop's to cook
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Disco existed for one reason - it was an attempt to kill live music. Club owners could charge the same cover and pay one person to play records as they charged when they paid a whole band. As I was a professional soundman at the time, it was a direct and deliberate assault on my livelihood, so I'd have hated it even if it wasn't really crappy, boring music, and a truly firetrucked stlye-over-substance lifeview. (I will, however, admit to a certain enjoyment of the ladies' fashions it spawned - but that doesn't make me a bad person, does it?)
Peter
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One of the finest bass players I ever saw was a female bass player in a Disco band in a club in Clarksville, Tenn. This road band had a horn section and they were really tight. The standout musician was the bass player.
(I started to mention her in the recent thread on women bass players, but I do not know her name. It was 30 plus years ago.)
With the proximity of Fort Campbell, Ky., Nashville, Tenn. The Clarksville area had some really good musicians and bands roll through. (In fact while stationed at Fort Campbell Jimi Hendrix had a band with some local musicians and he played several clubs on the Fort Campbell strip. In the 1970s I played at several of the clubs on the strip where Hendrix is said to have played. I collected a few stories from folks who said they saw Jimi play at these clubs. Some of these folks also claimed to have partied with Hendrix. Anyway........
I digress, however. I miss the '60s because I truly was a child of the '60s.)
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I also thought that disco would kill bass playing. It seemed that there were keys playing the parts I used to have, notes too low for me to go to, and if there was a bass player, s/he needed to back up on keys.
But I cannot let this thread slide through without propping up Cordell Boogie Mosson of Parliament and Funkadelic. If you have access to any of the old (70s) videos, check out Mosson. He (to many of us) defined funk, and it was usually in the spaces and air. It was the space between the notes, it was the hesitation while still being on the beat, it was going low when everyone else was going high. He was busy, but there wasn't clutter...does that make any sense?
(And in the videos I have, he has a Ric if that means anything...)
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I graduated high school in May 1975. The decade has always felt like it was divided literally into two distinct and even parts. I can remember all of us on graduation night hooting it up around The Old Oak Tree in Land Between the Lakes, listening to the music and saying the newer stuff coming out was different.
Disco always seems to get the lion's share of discussion of this prime musical decade. For me there has been nothing before or since that can match the total breadth, depth and scope of the music of the first half of the 1970s.
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Oh yes..Rocco..Tower of Power, how on earth did I forget to mention him..16ths at an amazing pace!
In the UK disco trickled over here and came at the same time as UK punk so there was a big mix going on.
HG..those low notes in disco came in the 80's with the advent of synths, the real stuff was those bass players I have already mentioned.
I guess every decade relates to someone in this forum, on a personal level we all connect with a certain time in our lives with the music that was going on.
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Our old guitar player used to say, disco is to music what finger painting is to art.
OO
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57basstra wrote:For me there has been nothing before or since that can match the total breadth, depth and scope of the music of the first half of the 1970s.
I'm also of the era - graduated HS in '73 and the musical heritage we had starting in the 60's has not been equaled since. It didn't just redefine the form but changed our culture - the way we dressed, talked, recreated (oh boy did it!) etc. Yes there has been great music since, but the total spectrum of change and impact hasn't been duplicated.
And yes, Disco had a huge impact. Why did it get so popular? It wasn't the scintillating melodies. It reintroduced physical contact between men and women while dancing! The 50's had it, the 60's lost it. Disco allowed you to touch your partner. Whatever else you might think or say about it (music notwithstanding), if you knew the steps all the girls wanted to dance with you. Need I say more? The musician's suffered - the dancers did not!
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HI terryc. I am an huge fan of Rocco's style, He has made an instructional video called 'FINGER STYLE FUNK ! i like watching it from time to time. It is worth buying.
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retirement fund started by Kiss?
is there a good story here?
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Yeah I know what John meant by the retirement fund started by Kiss, we had a few discussions about it,
In 1985 every band that was and had played made come backs and it started with Kiss going back out on tour and the rumors in the L.A. music circuit was the musicians there we mocking some of these groups that they spent all their money partying on substances, cars and homes and were broke and needed to pay the bills so off they went, which was probably true for most of them and some of them even admitted to the fact of it on T.V.
The labels were starving for new talent at the time also. Thats about all I can remember, John will have to tell ya the rest.
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One of the bands I gig with does a few Tower of Power tunes, and those are the most physically challenging rapid-fire lines I've ever played..
John
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Another one of my favorite LP's from the 70's was the Isley Brothers-Go For Your Guns lp. We used play the tune Climbing Up the Ladder. Cool bassline in it.
OO
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I also heard prohibition was pretty rough back then... any of you old guys into boot legging? How about flapper girls?
Sorry just trying to relate to you old guys so I thought I would bring up relevent issues from your youth. Must have been a shock to hear about the Kaiser getting shot, eh?
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There were 4 Kaisers of the Austrian & Austro-Hungarian Empires & 3 Kaisers of the German Empire. None were shot (Franz Joseph of Austria was stabbed once, but survived). You must be thinking of Arch-Duke Franz Ferdinand, who who would have one day been Kaiser of Austria-Hungary if Gavrillo Princip hadn't popped a cap in him in 1914, touching off the Great War. Jeez, kids these days......
Peter
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A big part of our local economy was (and is) driven by bootleggin'. A local legend in my area was a renowned bootlegger named Lim Manners who was also a guitar player, singer and songwriter. I went to school with one of his sons.
When the Revenuers come by his place and found nothing he told them to tell the community, Don't tell 'em I don't have nothin' to sell, jus' tell 'em you couldn't find it!
I went into one of his old houses with a friend who had bought it years after Lim had retired and the west wall had a false front and behind it was a full room hidden from view. We used it as a recording studio ( and ancillary advancements.)
We used to buy Moonshine from the local VFW and then go back to practice for our gigs there. In the '70s the VFW would let us play there once a month because we brought in such great lookin' women and sold them out standing room only on alcohol and beer.
I can remember playing Pink Floyd Pigs at the local VFW and saying, Sure, we can play Country Music; but guess what country.
I don't know much about the first Great War, but Moonshining was and is a way of life 'round chere.
Next lesson: Moonshine drag cars and starter girls who used their bras as starter flags....
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Yee Haw!
Sure am good!
Mike
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Am I the only one here who liked the band CACTUS??? Boy, did they rock. Good lineup of musicions. Great drummer.
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My housemates and I had several Cactus albums back in the seventies.
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Actually, I'm looking forward to the 70's, as well as the rest of the 50's, the 60's and, (hopefully), the 80's and 90's. It's the 20's, 30's and 40's that I miss! lol
Bill, tgo
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Gee thanks Bill, you just made me realize that I'm closer to those 70's than the 1970's. Of course you are a little closer than I. ;)
Beats the alternative though.
Alas,
OO
(Message edited by olieoliver on June 30, 2009)
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CACTUS is one of my favorite band. What a cool band they are! They played perfect American hard rock with Mountain or Grand Funk Railroad.
Toshiaki
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Let us not forget that some bands that were around prior to the mighty 70's were making GREAT music in that decade. For instance, some might say that the Good Ol' Grateful Dead made their best recordings then...