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Title: The Chop Shop by request CHOP"S 101
Post by: john_judge on July 22, 2009, 06:51:32 PM: Ok after my last post I received a few emails about asking how to improve Chops and to go into more detail about what I was trying to get across, so I decide to do one better, I have some great drum grooves for any Bass player to groove along with..Welcome to Chops 101
Anyone interested in getting some mp3's of grooves to take you out of the box and mess with your basic 4/4 time signature and learn how to get off the beat track and right back on again email me and say in subject send CHOPS

These are actual grooves that I practice myself, and for all you master Choppers out there, glad to send then to you also to have fun with, afterall we all wanted to play the best Instrument around, so why not try to be the best that you are capable of being.
I mean I don't care how good you are, we always strive for more and if you have a particular flavor you like I will send that Chop to you also, My main objective here is to help anyone who wants to help themselves become a better Bassist..So anyone interested..Chop Chop let's throw it down.
Title: The Chop Shop by request CHOP"S 101
Post by: serialnumber12 on July 23, 2009, 12:25:11 PM: chop me up! keavin1972@yahoo.com (mailto:keavin1972@yahoo.com)
Title: The Chop Shop by request CHOP"S 101
Post by: john_judge on July 23, 2009, 04:31:18 PM: Chop shop people try to watch yourselves close when you are playing along with the drum grooves and try not to lose it in the quite passages, use your dynamics to bring it down and watch the Latin grooves for your timing is the best advice I can give you, but we will get into more instrumentation down the road so stay tuned
Title: The Chop Shop by request CHOP"S 101
Post by: hieronymous on July 23, 2009, 09:37:57 PM: chop me up!

hieronymous_three@gmail.com (mailto:hieronymous_three@gmail.com)

We missed you at the NoCal gathering, but just having you here at the club is a blessing. Anything to move the music forwards!
Title: The Chop Shop by request CHOP"S 101
Post by: bassilisk on July 24, 2009, 04:59:04 AM: I'm ready for some.

lowtones@gmail.com (mailto:lowtones@gmail.com)

Thanks!
Title: The Chop Shop by request CHOP"S 101
Post by: georgie_boy on July 24, 2009, 05:13:39 AM: So am I !!
gf.waller@virgin.net (mailto:gf.waller@virgin.net)
Title: The Chop Shop by request CHOP"S 101
Post by: hydrargyrum on July 24, 2009, 11:54:27 AM: Me too!

faskenk1@yahoo.com (mailto:faskenk1@yahoo.com)
Title: The Chop Shop by request CHOP"S 101
Post by: alemberic on July 24, 2009, 12:25:54 PM: Include me in please

locnlode@surewest.net (mailto:locnlode@surewest.net)

Eric
Title: The Chop Shop by request CHOP"S 101
Post by: smokinbear on July 25, 2009, 08:52:34 AM: Count me in too please!!!

smokin-bear@comcast.net (mailto:smokin-bear@comcast.net)
Title: The Chop Shop by request CHOP"S 101
Post by: john_judge on July 25, 2009, 04:26:41 PM: The Chops comments I am getting in emails are showing how some people are realizing how something so simple can throw you off so easily, because when you get comfortable with a groove and all of a sudden, a curve ball comes at you, you got to move or duck, or just hit it. Like I said most people play fast when things are loud and slow when things are soft but when you go from loud to soft, thats when you will find that you lost your meter and your groove most of the time.
As you get better make you groove line more complex to the drum groove, it never end's until you quit or give up but you will get better Peace to all John
Title: The Chop Shop by request CHOP"S 101
Post by: hodge on July 25, 2009, 05:46:01 PM: will this work in book form. like a tutor, if so can i have the first [autographed }copy please..
Title: The Chop Shop by request CHOP"S 101
Post by: mike13 on July 25, 2009, 05:50:33 PM: Thanks for the email,John
Title: The Chop Shop by request CHOP"S 101
Post by: chuck on July 26, 2009, 05:18:43 PM: John.
Please include me as well.
Chuck.

stockworks@embarqmail.com (mailto:stockworks@embarqmail.com)
Title: The Chop Shop by request CHOP"S 101
Post by: hydrargyrum on July 27, 2009, 06:24:47 AM: Thanks from me as well. I'm a lowly guitar player, but I can certainly use the practice.
Title: The Chop Shop by request CHOP"S 101
Post by: Bradley Young on July 27, 2009, 08:55:27 PM: So, anyone brave enough to post their recordings?

Bradley

Not yet. (to the obvious question)
Title: The Chop Shop by request CHOP"S 101
Post by: elwoodblue on July 27, 2009, 09:15:22 PM: I just started this morning...no not brave yet : )
I pulled it apart a bit and looped the separate styles to dig in a bit.
I'll keep at it, maybe my pride and bravery will kick in.
Title: The Chop Shop by request CHOP"S 101
Post by: john_judge on July 28, 2009, 07:26:36 AM: Come on guys, the Chops are easy, but just when you lay down a pattern to get use to the groove, then go back and challenge yourself and it get's hard again, especially on meter and expression, it's endless if you make it that way and take it to the limit, but in the end you know what you are really capable of playing, thus you know your limits and your chops.
When you hear a bass player do a solo or let's say a fast line during a song and when he comes back to hit one the 1 count he's slightly off, it takes him a second or two to get back on, he stepped out of the box to try something that he wasn't sure of nor was he properly prepared for, he just stepped out of the box, took a gamble and hoped it would all work out, this exercise will help you to prevent that happening to you. more to come shortly enjoy, John
Title: The Chop Shop by request CHOP"S 101
Post by: hg30904 on July 28, 2009, 08:32:25 AM: John, count me in: hg01851@comcast.net (mailto:hg01851@comcast.net)

Thanks!
Title: The Chop Shop by request CHOP"S 101
Post by: terryc on July 28, 2009, 09:44:04 AM: You can never learn enough SO count me in

terry.capewell@ntlworld.com (mailto:terry.capewell@ntlworld.com)
Title: The Chop Shop by request CHOP"S 101
Post by: rjmsteel on July 29, 2009, 10:01:43 AM: John,
Count me in too.
Rich: pmcrich@sbcglobal.net (mailto:pmcrich@sbcglobal.net)
Title: The Chop Shop by request CHOP"S 101
Post by: kimberly on July 29, 2009, 02:03:13 PM: Hi John,

Sounds interesting.

I'd like to 'sign up' too please, thank you!

Best Regards,

Kimberly Lynn - Solo Bassist

PS. Nice of you to help and more so, nice to meet you!
Title: The Chop Shop by request CHOP"S 101
Post by: pauldo on July 29, 2009, 04:19:15 PM: I looped the whole song, but the changes come rapidly so it is a challenge to get 'settled in' to the groove.

Plus since I was listening through the computer upstairs ('lectric stuff is downstairs) I was doing it on my upright, which often lends itself (actually me and my skill level) to slower phrasing! :-D
Title: The Chop Shop by request CHOP"S 101
Post by: mikedm on July 29, 2009, 05:22:30 PM: Okay, I'm in. tincrown@tx.rr.com (mailto:tincrown@tx.rr.com)
Title: The Chop Shop by request CHOP"S 101
Post by: john_judge on July 31, 2009, 07:16:26 AM: Same to you Kimberly, I heard nothing but good things about you around here, upside down lefty, very interesting!...I just got through will a recording I did where I played guitar on it also and I reversed the guitar solo in the program to give it a bow effect, but when I was writing it and playing I have to play and think backwards so when I flipped the part the notes would come out where I approximately needed then to be at. Lot's of fun and challenging to say the least.
Title: The Chop Shop by request CHOP"S 101
Post by: oddmetersam on August 02, 2009, 04:10:56 AM: Hi, John
Please include me. Thanks!
Sam Sheats
legionkondor@hotmail.com (mailto:legionkondor@hotmail.com)
Title: The Chop Shop by request CHOP"S 101
Post by: peoplechipper on August 04, 2009, 12:26:34 AM: John, this is probably WAY beyond my current abilities, but I'll try; thankfully time is my one ability...Tony.
ya know where to send it...
Title: The Chop Shop by request CHOP"S 101
Post by: terryc on August 05, 2009, 01:52:57 AM: Nice mix of rhythms, I did a 7 note riff based on Am7 and when it went to the funky style, kept the same chord but placed rests to add space.
I love playing around with one chord(doesn't mean I only know one as I can guess your laughs from you lot out there).
In the jazz/latin band I am in we wrote a tune based around Gm7, just by adding the the occasional 7th, 9th, 11th & 13th notes and modes you can create that out of the box feel.
Need more drums please!!
Title: The Chop Shop by request CHOP"S 101
Post by: john_judge on August 05, 2009, 06:45:02 PM: Nicely done Terry, I am in the process of putting something special together over the weekend for the Chops 101 people who I already sent so being you are already on the list you will automatically receive it. This is a great way to develop some stop and go method with a mixture of riffs and finding a part that can be played throughout the entire drum grooves. Trying finding one that you can play through all the parts and not lose it is a challenge at first but real makes things come alive in your way of thinking and accenting, thus becomes the ChopS.
Title: The Chop Shop by request CHOP"S 101
Post by: john_judge on August 09, 2009, 06:35:54 PM: OK as promised new chops will be emailed out tomorrow and if you already received the first one's then you should be on my mail list if you don't get them by tuesday the contact me via email, this chop lesson guides you through the stop and go bass playing that goes with Salsa and beside drums you will have other instruments to contend with on this one..enjoy
Title: The Chop Shop by request CHOP"S 101
Post by: terryc on August 10, 2009, 10:13:46 AM: Salsa!!! beat you on that one as I am in a salsa band BUT look forward to that..best check my e mails as it is monday now!!!
Title: The Chop Shop by request CHOP"S 101
Post by: artswork99 on August 14, 2009, 06:08:49 PM: I'm in!

Thanks John!
Title: The Chop Shop by request CHOP"S 101
Post by: dlbydgtl on August 14, 2009, 09:08:23 PM: Send my way. Just finished a show and time to practice..
jspinder@mac.com (mailto:jspinder@mac.com) Thanks
Title: The Chop Shop by request CHOP"S 101
Post by: lembic76450 on August 16, 2009, 04:49:33 PM: John,

Just back from vacation, I would love to be included.
popps@acidflash.com (mailto:popps@acidflash.com) Thanks
Title: The Chop Shop by request CHOP"S 101
Post by: basicvoo on August 16, 2009, 10:38:14 PM: Me too.
basicvoo@aol.com (mailto:basicvoo@aol.com)

Thanks!
Title: The Chop Shop by request CHOP"S 101
Post by: slawie on August 19, 2009, 02:57:04 AM: Count me in! (pun intended)

slawie

slawie@gmail.com (mailto:slawie@gmail.com)
Title: The Chop Shop by request CHOP"S 101
Post by: john_judge on August 21, 2009, 04:57:12 PM: Just finished the next two Chops, first we are gonna get Funky as hell with full music accompaniment, horns, guitars stop and go Tower of Power little flair to it, then the next one we are off to the islands for some reggae, any rest stroke players or thumb slappers and poppers, you will like this funky groove..watch for mondays mail and as always if you don't get it by tuesday email me direct cheers John..

p.s. any guitar players out there want in on it let me know and I will add a bass line for ya and mute out the guitar, be sure to put in the message send guitar chops
Title: The Chop Shop by request CHOP"S 101
Post by: artswork99 on August 21, 2009, 06:27:59 PM: Sweet!
Title: The Chop Shop by request CHOP"S 101
Post by: tomhug on August 24, 2009, 03:40:53 PM: Great idea! I'd love to get in on this too:

TomHug(at)gmail.com
Title: The Chop Shop by request CHOP"S 101
Post by: 12stringwilson on September 18, 2009, 12:16:21 PM: Count me in as well. Last night while playing I realized that even going 4 days without playing my fingers and brain were a little lazy. lol.

wilson_brent@bellsouth.net (mailto:wilson_brent@bellsouth.net)