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Title: The one stick I would love to get beaten across my hands with
Post by: john_judge on October 12, 2009, 11:11:47 AM

nice piece of equipment
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taQKRgP--bA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taQKRgP--bA)
Hey Danno this could be your next adventure
hmmmm Robo stick anyone? there is a lot to tune here

Title: The one stick I would love to get beaten across my hands with
Post by: artswork99 on October 12, 2009, 11:13:17 AM

Love that fretless and fretted idea...

Title: The one stick I would love to get beaten across my hands with
Post by: john_judge on October 12, 2009, 11:20:28 AM

Yeah me too, I been thinking a lot about going that way for the Raven 6 string Half fretted 1-12 and half fretless 13 up

Title: The one stick I would love to get beaten across my hands with
Post by: artswork99 on October 12, 2009, 11:22:09 AM

Will make for an interesting instrument for sure!

Title: The one stick I would love to get beaten across my hands with
Post by: David Houck on October 12, 2009, 02:52:26 PM

Very nice playing!
 
Just thinking out loud; it seems to me that when the action is just right on the fretted side, it's going to be too high on the fretless side.

Title: The one stick I would love to get beaten across my hands with
Post by: pauldo on October 12, 2009, 05:22:37 PM

That is REALLY cool!

Title: The one stick I would love to get beaten across my hands with
Post by: john_judge on October 12, 2009, 05:31:29 PM

Hi Dave, Here is one key to that problem, is how the intonation is set by the end of the neck thus this keeps proper intonation, and the type of frets used, need to be filed lower etc...so your fretless area is like a big scallop out area to slide around in, like in the second video you have to have the converter that with a flip of the lever, you got frets that pop up from the neck, I prefer the first way...here are 2 examples enjoy
 
http://forum.warwick.de/14-maddrakketts-caffe/5564-video-half-fretted-fretless-bass-w-kahler-whammi.html (http://forum.warwick.de/14-maddrakketts-caffe/5564-video-half-fretted-fretless-bass-w-kahler-whammi.html)
 

 
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Title: The one stick I would love to get beaten across my hands with
Post by: elwoodblue on October 12, 2009, 09:11:51 PM

I thought I'd toss this pic into the thread,
It's the only bass I've seen that's half fretted.(http://club.alembic.com/Images/449/71443.jpg)

Title: The one stick I would love to get beaten across my hands with
Post by: harald_rost on October 12, 2009, 11:43:42 PM

Anyone interested in The Stick should watch this:
 
http://www.chapdoc.com/ (http://www.chapdoc.com/)
 
Harald

Title: The one stick I would love to get beaten across my hands with
Post by: 88persuader on October 12, 2009, 11:49:20 PM

I actually owned a fully fretted NS Stick for over a year. It's a great cross between a bass and a Chapman Stick. I also play a 12 string Chapman Grand Stick. (Think Tony Levin)  
 
You can play it like a bass OR guitar OR a two hand tapping instrument. It's an amazing does it all instrument for the bass player who wants to two hand tap as well as use the instrument as a bass on a gig or the studio. I recently sold mine because I needed to purchase a new iMAC computer and Logic recording software but if I didn't really need the computer and recording gear I'd still have it. I'm a BIG Chapman Stick and NS Stick (Made by Stick) fan and am also an active member of it's forum. I actually have a full NS Stick played original on my web site www.rayrlmusic.com (http://www.rayrlmusic.com) called No Sun Blues. (NS Blues) Feel free to check out my site. i also have LOTS of other music and also one solo tune played on my Chapman Grand Stick.

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Post by: terryc on October 13, 2009, 01:13:17 AM

elwoodblue..is that your bass??  Interesting control set up.  
I once saw something similar in a book published in the UK called 'The Bass Book', I wonder if it is the same instrument.

Title: The one stick I would love to get beaten across my hands with
Post by: jacko on October 13, 2009, 04:27:35 AM

Looks like an Ibanez artist to me?  
 
Graeme

Title: The one stick I would love to get beaten across my hands with
Post by: artswork99 on October 13, 2009, 05:38:27 AM

Harald,  Thanks for the link, cool film!  Notice the stick gathering ;)

Title: The one stick I would love to get beaten across my hands with
Post by: john_judge on October 13, 2009, 06:29:04 AM

Cool video Harald, I have yet to play one but it is on my list of things to do this year coming up way before my bucket list of things to do!

Title: The one stick I would love to get beaten across my hands with
Post by: georgie_boy on October 13, 2009, 06:33:47 AM

Just wonderful!!!
Infact...Emmett plays so well on this IMHO
what a sound!!

Title: The one stick I would love to get beaten across my hands with
Post by: john_judge on October 13, 2009, 06:44:55 AM

THis is a six string made by Brown's guitar factory, somehow Dave they elevate the Fretless part
 to the fretted height to keep the intonation right(http://club.alembic.com/Images/449/71448.jpg)
selling price on this model is $6900.00 the body is Bubinga and they also have it available in reverse with the first half fretless and the upper part fretted comes in 4,5, or 6
 
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Post by: elwoodblue on October 13, 2009, 09:01:50 AM

Terry,
 It's an '81 Ibanez AJ-10, I sold it last year.
It played well, although it might have been even better with the upper fretboard raised a little as is being discussed.
 The electronics must be similar to the Ibanez tri-sound set-up.

Title: The one stick I would love to get beaten across my hands with
Post by: hammer on October 14, 2009, 09:25:43 AM

Here's a YouTube link to Johnny Brown playing a Brown Fretted/Less Bass http://www.youtube.com/watch?hl=en-GB&v=W-9wY57AZIs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?hl=en-GB&v=W-9wY57AZIs)
 
Brown uses what he refers to as phenolic material to raise the fingerboard on the fretless area. Having played a few of his productions (in the store only) the transition from the fretted to fretless section of the bass is incredibly smooth. Brown has a variety of wood options for the neck and body including many of the same woods used by Alembic. On the Brown basses I've seen and had the opportunity to play around with in the shop, however, the woods are no where near as special as those used by Alembic.  While his basses sound great they also don't offer anywhere near the tonal offerings as an Alembic.

Title: The one stick I would love to get beaten across my hands with
Post by: pauldo on October 14, 2009, 10:30:18 AM

That was an absolutely delicious bass solo.
He showed the versatility of the instrument very nicely.  
 
 
Thanks for the link!