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Title: Upgrade Rogue with another low-pass-filter
Post by: kol on August 21, 2010, 10:08:54 AM
Can anyone tell me if it is possible to fit in another low-pass-filter on my Rouge-5?
Title: Upgrade Rogue with another low-pass-filter
Post by: crgaston on August 21, 2010, 10:59:15 AM
It sure is.  Check out 99Q12212 Wenge Rogue in the Showcase.  It has two filters.
Title: Upgrade Rogue with another low-pass-filter
Post by: kol on August 22, 2010, 02:43:01 AM
Thank you cragston for the help.Do you think this was  custom made? Just curious because I want to find out if I can get my bass an upgrade.
Title: Upgrade Rogue with another low-pass-filter
Post by: adriaan on August 22, 2010, 04:16:20 AM
The size of the pickup cavity may be a large enogh - why not post a pic of the cavity (with the cover off, of course).
Title: Upgrade Rogue with another low-pass-filter
Post by: crgaston on August 22, 2010, 05:32:52 AM
Kol, I believe you can.  Call Mica and she will give you the best answer on how to proceed, as well as a price.
Title: Upgrade Rogue with another low-pass-filter
Post by: jazzyvee on August 22, 2010, 06:36:09 AM
I wondered about that same thing for my Europa 5 bass a while back so I will be interested in the outcome of this thread.
 
Jazzyvee
Title: Upgrade Rogue with another low-pass-filter
Post by: kol on August 22, 2010, 01:22:53 PM
Thank you guys. Back from playing this evening. Will investigate more tomorrow. Here in Norway it\s bedtime nowby now!
Title: Upgrade Rogue with another low-pass-filter
Post by: LMiwa on August 24, 2010, 11:48:15 AM
I asked Mica the same thing about a 6string Rogue. The answer is yes you can, but you will be purchasing the equivalent of a full set of Signature electronics. With one filter, it affects the signal after the blend. With two filters, they affect each pickup separately. That difference is HUGELY significant in the sound, but also requires significantly different circuitry.
Title: Upgrade Rogue with another low-pass-filter
Post by: mario_farufyno on August 24, 2010, 07:43:50 PM
and, as it seems, a significant amount of cash either... ouch!
Title: Upgrade Rogue with another low-pass-filter
Post by: mica on August 25, 2010, 05:25:38 PM
Because of the control layout on 99Q12212, I think it was a retrofit. I have a vague recollection that it was pretty difficult to cram everything in there.  
 
Compare the size of your backplate to the Weng? Rogue. If it looks to be the same size, it's probably something you can handle if drilling holes in an Alembic doesn't turn your stomach. If your backplate is smaller, then the job will need to be done by a local professional. It's not practical to send it to us from Norway for such a modification.
Title: Upgrade Rogue with another low-pass-filter
Post by: smokin_dave on August 25, 2010, 08:52:54 PM
I would be interested in knowing the price of such an upgrade since I would very much like to have another low pass filter on my Rogue.I'm not to squeamish about another hole being drilled as long as it is done the right way.
Title: Upgrade Rogue with another low-pass-filter
Post by: mica on August 26, 2010, 12:39:14 PM
Dave, compare the backplates like I described in post 6899 and write me an email with what you find. If you can include a nice clear picture of the inside of the electronics cavity, that would be even better.
Title: Upgrade Rogue with another low-pass-filter
Post by: kol on August 27, 2010, 01:28:33 PM
This is how it looks like in the cavity of my Rogue.Have done some upgrade already to get rid of earthing problems.Have got a nice sound.Just ask if someone want  to know more about  it.
The pic is not very good,but I hope it will do the job.(http://club.alembic.com/Images/393/85188.jpg)
Title: Upgrade Rogue with another low-pass-filter
Post by: bassilisk on August 31, 2010, 09:32:07 AM
I was out on vacation last week so I'm just finding this thread. The previous owner of my Rogue had another full set of controls added - 2 tone switches and another Q, so now there's a set for each pickup. Clearly, he ordered it that way because they're symmetrically located.
 
At any rate, I really like having the extra flexibility and use it often. Good luck with your upgrade - I'm sure you'll enjoy it!
 
(http://club.alembic.com/Images/393/85414.jpg)
Title: Upgrade Rogue with another low-pass-filter
Post by: tmoney61092 on August 31, 2010, 09:45:59 AM
Will, i thought the reflectiono of the camera on the finish was some type of secret input jack :-p, beatiful bass though!
 
~Taylor
Title: Upgrade Rogue with another low-pass-filter
Post by: bassilisk on August 31, 2010, 11:10:55 AM
LOL! Thanks Taylor! Just another reflection of the cyclops! (I used to be better at picking up that kind of thing....)
 
Will
Title: Upgrade Rogue with another low-pass-filter
Post by: kol on September 06, 2010, 10:44:13 AM
Thank you all for helpful tips on the uppgrade.
I\m  still in the beginning of the prosess.Waiting for guidance from Alembic.
In the meantime,here is a better pic of my cavity.
Greetings from Norway(http://club.alembic.com/Images/393/85720.jpg)
Title: Upgrade Rogue with another low-pass-filter
Post by: mica on September 08, 2010, 06:12:35 PM
Adding a filter (or a filter and Q switch) is probably best achieved by taking the existing electronics out and using them in another project and replacing with Signature electronics. You can keep the bass and treble switches in this bass and have them either dedicated to one pickup or the overall sound.  
 
Working around the existing holes, something like this could function:
 
(http://club.alembic.com/Images/393/85808.jpg)
 
The dotted line represents a small undercut you might need to make to accommodate the extra Q switch and make the layout look like it wasn't an afterthought. The green dot is where I'd put the volume control. I'd use the existing volume location for the new filter, and leave the pan and original filter locations the same.
Title: Upgrade Rogue with another low-pass-filter
Post by: kol on September 10, 2010, 10:41:22 AM
Thank you Mica for helpful info.What I need to know is the price for having the Signature electronics.