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Title: Fender painted
Post by: jdog_35 on January 30, 2008, 04:51:59 PM

my dad gave me a old fender music master bass that he bought new years ago the paint got old so he decided to paint over the old paint. Is there any way to get to the old paint? heres the ser# to date bass 548565 thanks

Title: Fender painted
Post by: crobbins on January 30, 2008, 08:10:12 PM

This post is worthless without pics.8)

Title: Fender painted
Post by: rami on January 30, 2008, 08:46:23 PM

With an F plate, that serial number puts it around late 1973 to mid 1974.  The Music Master isn't a high demand Bass even if it were in mint condition. Refinishing an old Fender just ruins it's value and desirability.  I know of no way to safely remove an overcoat of paint without damaging the undercoat.  Perhaps you can consult a professional paint shop for their advice.  But maybe it's best just to enjoy a cool old Bass the way it is.  
 
;)
 
(Message edited by rami on January 30, 2008)

Title: Fender painted
Post by: keavin on January 31, 2008, 03:37:45 AM

Speaking of Fender Here's a 1966 Jazz Bass for $27,500,00 @ vintage guitar mag classifides http://www.vintageguitar.com/classifieds/item_detail.asp?ItemID=127649 (http://www.vintageguitar.com/classifieds/item_detail.asp?ItemID=127649)
 
(Message edited by keavin on January 31, 2008)

Title: Fender painted
Post by: white_cloud on January 31, 2008, 04:08:00 AM

Crazy money for a fender of any age or description! nice bass though.
 
Regarding removal of the overcoat finish on the Musicmaster it vey much depends on what kind of paint was used! Im a great believer in theres always a way!
 
More info is needed.
 
John.

Title: Fender painted
Post by: rami on January 31, 2008, 05:50:51 AM

The Music Master is a cool short scale single pickup Bass,  but I suppose it was considered too similar to the Mustang for it to last.
Great Bass though and in this case, a family heirloom.  
I agree with John, I'm sure there's a way to recover the original finish.  I just wonder about the cost.

Title: Fender painted
Post by: rami on January 31, 2008, 06:00:36 AM

That '66 Jazz Bass is outstanding, it's price is outrageous.  If the seller gets that price, then there's hope for us all!

Title: Fender painted
Post by: glocke on January 31, 2008, 07:49:07 AM

geez..Ive got a 64 pacific blue refin jazz bass (all original hardware), and a 72 original finish sunburst jazz bass (finish is beat hell)...
 
I wonder what they are worth..maybe my reitrement doesnt look so bleak after all ??

Title: Fender painted
Post by: keavin on January 31, 2008, 07:59:29 AM

 
 
(Message edited by keavin on January 31, 2008)

Title: Fender painted
Post by: keavin on January 31, 2008, 08:00:03 AM

Hey glocke if i were you i'd test the market & see exactly what somebody is willing to shell out for those fenders ......remember an Old fender will fly off a shelf before an old alembic will!

Title: Fender painted
Post by: keavin on January 31, 2008, 08:05:20 AM

VINTAGE BASSES & THEIR ASKING PRICES   http://www.vintageguitar.com/classifieds/details.asp?cat=Basses_For_Sale&looktype=category&VM=m (http://www.vintageguitar.com/classifieds/details.asp?cat=Basses_For_Sale&looktype=category&VM=m)

Title: Fender painted
Post by: glocke on January 31, 2008, 08:43:58 AM

thought about it from time to time keavin.  I havent played either of them in ages, but im not really in need of the cash that sales from those will bring..although the sale of both will go a long towards a nice custom medium or short scale series II

Title: Fender painted
Post by: white_cloud on January 31, 2008, 10:03:23 AM

Hey,  
 
I say hold onto them..they are a sound investment!
 
In years to come their value will continue to rise! New fenders arent a patch on the classics, there will always be a demand for good oldies
 
John.

Title: Fender painted
Post by: 811952 on January 31, 2008, 10:29:34 AM

A bandmate of mine regularly sells old Fender basses in that price range...

Title: Fender painted
Post by: hifiguy on January 31, 2008, 10:30:30 AM

That might be the nicest old Jazz I've ever seen. That the owner is asking the moon for it is understandable given the market: it's (1) a custom color with (2) matching headstock, (3)bound dot neck and (4) seemingly flawless.  That is one rare bird.  What I don't understand is people paying big bux for beat up old Js and Ps.
 
Still, for $27.5k I'd rather have the all-out custom Series II with ancient Egyptian inlay work that I've designed for myself.

Title: Fender painted
Post by: rami on January 31, 2008, 10:35:39 AM

I also have a nice collection of vintage Fenders.  Luckily, I got them all before the prices shot through the roof.  I don't like to think of them in terms of their value as much as just enjoying them in my collection.  Most of them play well and sound great, but I really enjoy admiring them and showing them off.
 
Here's my '68 Jazz - all original near perfect condition;
 
(http://club.alembic.com/Images/449/48166.jpg)
 
 
Real sweet!
 
;)

Title: Fender painted
Post by: georgie_boy on January 31, 2008, 10:44:30 AM

Beautiful!!

Title: Fender painted
Post by: white_cloud on January 31, 2008, 12:20:43 PM

Thats almost as good as it gets Rami!
 
John.

Title: Fender painted
Post by: jacko on February 03, 2008, 10:03:37 AM

I only have one Fender but I've had her almost as long as I've been playing. She was originally a tobacco sunburst US '79 precision but she's had one or two subtle modifications..
 
(http://club.alembic.com/Images/449/48266.jpg)
 
Graeme

Title: Fender painted
Post by: 5stringho on February 03, 2008, 11:09:35 AM

Fenderbacker??? =]
 
Looks interesting, Graeme!!

Title: Fender painted
Post by: white_cloud on February 03, 2008, 12:35:54 PM

He, he, he...........outrageous!
 
John.

Title: Fender painted
Post by: 811952 on February 03, 2008, 02:43:44 PM

So the question I have is whether it's a ricky pickup in the bridge position, or a jazz pickup under that chrome guard...
 
John

Title: Fender painted
Post by: jacko on February 04, 2008, 12:47:52 AM

It's all rick, right down to the mono and stereo 'rickosound' jacks on the edge of the body. Bridge is a schaller, very similar to that used on Fodera. When I got the bass, the rick conversion had been done but the paintwork was appalling - chipped to hell (and only a year old!!) - so I stripped it with a cabinet scraper, dye'd it a light oak and gave it a couple of coats of varnish before replacing the bridge. Every now and again I contemplate getting the tobacco burst redone professionally but Mrs J seems to think it has sentimental value as it stands. My eldest daughter looks after her now so I guess it's her decision.
 
Graeme