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Title: What is an ebonised fingerboard
Post by: jazzyvee on February 01, 2008, 12:25:00 PM

I've been toying with the idea of getting a double bass on and off for a few years.  
 
A lot of the cheaper ones I see on ebay have what they call
ebonised fingerboards.
 
What does that mean?
I presume it's  not real ebony at the budget end of the market.
Any idea's?
 
Jazzyvee

Title: What is an ebonised fingerboard
Post by: darkstar01 on February 01, 2008, 02:01:57 PM

I've never heard that term before, but I used to have an old German flatback with a rosewood board that was covered in ebony. However, the guy that did the work did a terrible job and I had to get the ebony removed. Maybe that's what it is.  
Austin

Title: What is an ebonised fingerboard
Post by: bsee on February 01, 2008, 02:10:28 PM

I think it involves hardening a lesser wood with chemicals to bring it to the hardness of ebony.  It may even be more of a composite than that.  Lesser woods on a fretless tend to wear grooves under the strings.
 
I vaguely remember a Gibson/Epiphone PRS copy back when PRS became popular that had the same kind of board.

Title: What is an ebonised fingerboard
Post by: funkyjazzjunky on February 01, 2008, 02:27:50 PM

I had a plywood double bass with an 'ebonized' fingerboard.  It was a phenolic board, light colored wood in a resin dyed black.

Title: What is an ebonised fingerboard
Post by: keavin on February 01, 2008, 03:04:48 PM

This link might provide some answers...http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADBF_enUS231US231&q=ebonised+fingerboard (http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADBF_enUS231US231&q=ebonised+fingerboard)

Title: What is an ebonised fingerboard
Post by: keavin on February 01, 2008, 03:07:14 PM

this one too...http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADBF_enUS231US231&q=ebonised+ (http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADBF_enUS231US231&q=ebonised+)

Title: What is an ebonised fingerboard
Post by: bsee on February 01, 2008, 04:37:19 PM

Not much, Keavin.  Now, pick through all the links and see if there's something there with actual information and I think you'll be on to something!
 
Always a good idea to do a Google search in these cases, though.

Title: What is an ebonised fingerboard
Post by: Bradley Young on February 02, 2008, 11:30:36 AM

Two countries separated by a common language!
 
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/ebonized (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/ebonized)
 
First link on google for Ebonized.  It is anything painted or dyed to look like ebony.
 
Unless you're willing to treat this instrument as a disposable toy, I'd not recommend anything that has an ebonized fingerboard; they typically have really poor wood underneath, and cannot be worked on.  There are exceptions to this, of course (I think that the low end Engelhards, for instance, are okay).
 
The cheap basses on ebay generally aren't that good of an idea; the construction quality is terrible, and they have a tendency to fall apart.
 
Bradley

Title: What is an ebonised fingerboard
Post by: jazzyvee on February 03, 2008, 12:19:29 AM

haha what a simple explanation for a grand sounding word. So basically ebonised means just painted black.
 
ho hum, let me shelf that idea for a while and save for something else.
Jazzyvee

Title: What is an ebonised fingerboard
Post by: georgie_boy on February 03, 2008, 03:16:54 AM

Mu Cort Curbow bass has an Ebanol fingerboard. Is this the same thing???
It seems really good to me------but I'm a bit of a geek.
 
G

Title: What is an ebonised fingerboard
Post by: hydrargyrum on February 03, 2008, 04:49:40 AM

I guess that means that Danno has several ebonised alembics then, doesn't it?  ;)

Title: What is an ebonised fingerboard
Post by: dannobasso on February 03, 2008, 05:07:01 AM

That could be a new option for a custom finish.
Also available in opaque ebonized pigment saturation finish under space age polyester final coating!
 
Oh! You mean black! Makes sense now.
 
 
Dutifully yours, patiently waiting for my ebonized fraternal twins,
Danno
 
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Title: What is an ebonised fingerboard
Post by: hankster on February 03, 2008, 05:46:14 AM

Jazzyvee, you've probably already figured this out, but fingerboard aside, take your time, save your pennies (euros now I guess) and get a carved real wood bass rather than a plywood bass.  The difference is overwhelmingly worth the extra cost that a decent carved bass carries with it.
 
Good luck!
 
Rick

Title: What is an ebonised fingerboard
Post by: lbpesq on February 03, 2008, 07:47:57 AM

Danno:
 
I can assure you that all the EZwiders from the '74 Dead tour were put to good use long ago. hehehehe
 
Hey, I just bought an ebonized 2001 Toyota Highlander last week!
 
Bill, tgo

Title: What is an ebonised fingerboard
Post by: Bradley Young on February 03, 2008, 10:11:30 AM

Ebanol (ebonol?) is something different-- like a black plastic or something.  Not painted wood.

Title: What is an ebonised fingerboard
Post by: David Houck on February 03, 2008, 07:07:59 PM

A quick scan of the web suggests that Ebonol (Ebanol) is a synthetic material constructed of compressed paper and resin(1) (http://www.sweetwater.com/expert-center/glossary/t--Ebanol) that is homogenous in that it is a solid material and not composed of different materials like phenolics(2) (http://www.talkbass.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-151420.html).

Title: What is an ebonised fingerboard
Post by: georgie_boy on February 04, 2008, 07:03:45 AM

Thanks Dave & Bradley
I thought that that would mean it was crap, but it seems that Steinbergers have it or used to use it.
Can't be all that crap then I suppose.
Any TRUE feelings are much appreciated--------I'm thick skinned so don't worry
 
G