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Connecting => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: flaxattack on February 21, 2008, 07:22:25 PM
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its time or close to it for me to be changing jobs again, Funny how these things sneek up on us. i thought i had a job for life. i still do but i need to look around asap as i have no confidence or trust that new mgt can turn things around or not screw me in 9 months with promises i dont think they have any intention delivering on.
that being said- does anyone have experience using the kits out there that flush the system such as zydot etc. i got a few days clean. i figure i need a month and of course there is an opportunity knocking at the door. an good ops in the mortgage business right now are hard to come by
PLEASE HELP!
any bonafide firsthand feedback is appreciated.
please no comic remarks- not in the greatest of moods duh,,,,
i see liguids and pills and combos on the net.
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I have only a little experience with drug screening, and I have never tried any detox stuff. I do know that drug tests are very specific, and they don't necessarily test for Marijuana. For the one drug test I had to take years ago, (life insurance policy) I asked about what they test for, and was told, opiates and cocaine only. I know my experience may be different from what you are put through, but I think you have a right to know what they are testing for, after all, the tests are not full proof. Best of luck with your impending change.
James
(Message edited by jbybj on February 21, 2008)
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its the only illegal i do
thanks
been there done that!
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Well, better hope web search isn't part of their process...
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I am actively involved in drug screening for pre employment, one way is just to drink lots of water, this has the same effect as any detox method, it will dilute and then flush any metabolites out of the bloodstream.
We tell all testees not to drink the water from the cooler prior to the test
Non evidential drug testing(using the urine test cassettes) is looking for the METABOLITES not the drug
Evidential drug testing where the urine sample i it is sent away, the drug is detected by chromatography.
Some companies use hair testing which is far more accurate and cannot be masked.
I would give yourself at least a couple of weeks free but certainly give the water method a try.
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Hey this stuff really works!!!....but drink lots of water & dont eat before taking it. http://www.google.com/search?q=omni+clean (http://www.google.com/search?q=omni+clean)
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good thought bob
thanks k man
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All of the cleansing products involve drinking lots of water. Guess what? M&Ms work too, IF you drink lots of water. Get the picture? Of course this may not be necessary. A casual user will be clean in about 7-10 days. A heavy user (daily) will be clean in about 30 days. If you use the water method, it is actually better to drink juice. Copious amounts of water will visually dilute your urine which may result in a specific gravity test which will reveal the dilution. Juices, milk, liquids with color are less likely to result in visually detected dilution. Also, NEVER give up your first pee of the morning. Drink & pee, over and over again for the day preceding the test. Finally, if you are asked if you are on any medication, tell them you've recently taken some Advil. Ibprophren is known to cause false positives for THC on the EMIT test (that's the cheap test most often used in the employment environment). A slight positive will be explained by the Advil. You should be o.k.
Bill, tgo
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I was just tossing that out there. I have heard of it being done as part of the general screening process, but I'm in high tech and was working specifically for/with internet companies. I wouldn't really expect that sort of thing from bankers.
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Tommy Chongs Urine Luck has worked for me and my crew in the past. Check it out but I dont know if this is still available.
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The only time I was ever tested was two days since I had last imbibed and I got the job. I don't know if I passed as I never saw any results and didn't have the nerve to ask for them, but I did drink enough enough water to probably bring me close to water toxicity levels..... or whatever it's properly called.
-JP
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Flax,
Send me your address, and I'll send a ziplock bag full of pee.
Hahahaha. They might think you're pregnant, though.
Speaking of being pregnant...
Best panhandling sign ever (seen in NYC, Weds.)
Britney's sister is pregnant, and I need money to buy her a nice gift.
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Oops, sorry, just saw the no comedy caveat.
Hope your search goes well. Might be a good time to move to the fairer coast .
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well did lose my job= citigroup shut down all second mtgs. of course they lied about being kept on board./
got some type of severance pkg to tide me over for a while. but getting a job in the mtg biz might be a tad difficult. so at 55yrs i might be changinf g careers for the 3rd time
on a better note. i told the dock to drop my boat in the water asap., i need to fish!
i did fill up last year which i never do so i am sitting with 150 gals of 3.25 fuel with a current price of like 4.75 at the dock.
back to the detox search
thanks
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Sorry to hear of the job loss flax- good luck in your search, but in the meantime enjoy that fishing.
Just remember to keep your fingers out of their mouth.... ;)
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good luck dude...
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Jeff,
If you move over to California, nobody will care about your personal habits. Left Coast is waaaay more forgiving of that stuff.
Sorry to hear you lost your job, but let me offer a personal anecdote that getting laid off 10 years ago was one of the best things that ever happened to my career-- it put things in perspective and I've been a lot better off since.
Bradley
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Theres not much difference between the coasts when it comes to professional jobs and drug testing. In fact I had to get drug tested far more on the west coast because of how much more prevelant casual drug use was.
Its just the way things have been going for a long time. Here on the east coast most places are only doing an initial drug test which is what I found to be the case on the west coast. There are kits on the web that are available and you can even buy drug testing kits to test yourself to see where you stand.
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Move to the UK Jeff. I'd not even heard of drugs testing for jobs til I read this thread;-)
Graeme
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Nor me, although some Companies like First Bus have seemingly adopted such a stance
G
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I think it's pretty common in the States for employment. My company does random checks as well. As a matter of fact we're doing it today.
Sam
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My doctor told me it's all about drinking lots of water. He said also that burdock is worth taking.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, and supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. The U. S. Constitution, Amendment IV.
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Ben:
Water is basically the right idea, with one caveat. (See my post of Feb 22, above).
Wow the Constitution! What an amazing document! I remember the good old days when it actually meant something in this Country ... before it was repealed.
I spent this afternoon in court on a case where a couple was found growing cannabis. The cops also found about $30,000 in the home and seized it for forfeiture (a quaint little rule we have here in the States where the gov't gets to take away your property if a cop testifies that in his personal opinion he thinks it's from illicit sources or is meant to be spent on such. Then the burden is on the owner to prove where it came from and what it's for, (and pay all the lawyer's fees to do this) otherwise the gov't keeps your property). Well in this case the gov't is prosecuting both the criminal matter and the forfeiture as a civil matter. The prosecutor wants to do regular civil discovery - take my client's deposition, have my client answer written interrogatories and produce documents requested by the gov't. I told the prosecutor he is going to have to wait for the criminal case to resolve as, until then, my client has a Fifth Amendment right to remain silent. The prosecutor's response? It depends on the question. So much for Constitutional rights. They were great while they lasted. Now go put on a helmet, wear your seatbelt, no talking on the cell while driving, take off your clothes before getting on an airplane or entering a federal building, no hugging children, no telling jokes at the office, don't let anyone see your nipples, and pay $4.00 a gallon for the right to enjoy the above privileges. It's great to be the leader of the free world, ain't it?
Bill, tgo
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bill
define heavy user? like cheech and chong asked
how many joints in an oz? 2!
is a small bowl a day a heavy user?
was bob marley a heavy user? btw- just got back from jamaica---lol- marley hemp papers are for weed 100s!
lol- aeriously they are like 3 inches long
i found 2 sites offering testing strips...
but i do need a masking agent if i get lucky and find a job,,quickly
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Bill.
$4.00 a gallon? that's around ?2. Diesel over here has finally broken ?5 a gallon! Thank god my engine has blown up. means I can save a week or two's fuel by cycling everywhere.
And don't forget, all these restrictive laws are paying for your Alembic collection ;-)
Graeme
p.s. I hug my kids all the time. Even in public :-0
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Flax:
Most studies on THC metabolites remaining in the system consider heavy use as daily. Obviously, the more you use daily, the longer it will stay in your system.
Graeme:
THe weird thing is that I live in the San Francisco Bay Area where much of the nation's gasoline is refined, yet we pay the most ... even more than Hawaii where the gas has to be shipped over 2000 miles of ocean. And my Alembics are paid for by arguably the stupidest restrictive law of all. The one that proclaims Use a non-toxic, natural cure for chemo-related nausea instead of expensive pharmaceuticals with multiple, dangerous side effects, go to jail
Bill, tgo
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I know what you mean Bill. I live some 15 miles from Grangemouth which is home to one of the largest petrochemical plants in Europe. Betcha can't guess where the most expensive petrol in Scotland is?
And I quite agree, that law is one of the stupidest i've ever had the pleasure to break ;-)
Graeme
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soon we will be trading in alembics for a tank of gas....the republicans got what they wanted- richer rich and poora poor.....
anyway- i will lay off the sauce- frkn problem is who knows for how long-i am gonna buy test strips
from medical disposables.us and try some of the sites for cleansing agents....
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I suppose you could always try the whizzinator (unless they like to get far more personal than I would care to allow).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whizzinator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whizzinator)
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that is really inventive and you can give it to the wife to play with after...
lmao
ya know it does look like it could get the job done...
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Do they have a Jewish version? lol
Bill, tgo
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The United States Congress held hearings on the Whizzinator on May 17, 2005.
Dont they have ANYTHING better to do???
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Yes, they do. Discuss steroid use in pro baseball.
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My son claims a friend of his has one & has successfully used it on multiple occasions. Myself, I've never had to fill the cup in the presense of others. Though, on my last random* test they sent me just after I'd come out of the facilities, and volume was a problem. The collector had me sit for 1.5 hrs drinking water until I could fill it - I guess I owe her some thanks!
Peter
*10% of drivers are randomly hit every quarter by an impartial and anonymous system operated by consortia of employers. I was sent 6 quarters in a row. What's the statistical cut-off between paranoia & persecution?
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Wow, what a funky turn this thread has taken! LOL!
Sorry about the job, Flax. Keep your chin up. Real Estate is in the crapper, and lots of agents and mortgage Brokers have gone on to other (hopefully better) things. I've been searching for a house for the last 4mos. and while it is a buyers market, they t'aint givin' nothin' away. Fortunately for me, new housing developers are choking on inventory, so I just scored a new Townhome for slightly more than everyone else's craptastic resale. Finance deals are prevalent as well: I used Wells-Fargo as they were in cahoots with the developer and I made 'em an offer they couldn't refuse, LOL!
FWIW
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On the random testing: I used to be a truck driver for a major building materials center (Hugh M. Woods/Payless Cashways). They instituted regular drug screening as part of the commercial driver's license renewal process, which happened every two years. They also decided to institute random testing additionally. I refused to submit to that. I told them that if they called me at random, I would quit on the spot. They didn't want to lose me because I had an excellent safety and dependability record. For some reason, in the two years that they had random testing every driver got called for a drug screen except for me. So much for random.
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CLEAN AT LAST, CLEAN AT LAST, THANK GOD ALMIGHTY I AM CLEAN AT LAST
lmao- this sucks!!!!!!!!!!
bought a bunch of test kits- tested my morning peepee and looked negative. but will keep testing
should hopefully have job offer next week also...
i have extra test strips if anyone needs a couple let me know- and i never used the detox potions i bought... just drank lots of juice and water- particularly cranberry based drinks and pomergranite concoctions...
tanks all- my kidneys thank you...
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Flax:
Send 'em my way, Tina & I will blow 'em up! lol
By the way, if you first of the morn is clean, you should have NO PROBLEM as the first is always the worst. If number 1 number 1 of the day is clean, they all will be.
Bill, tgo
(Message edited by lbpesq on April 26, 2008)
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Why is the Netherlands the only place that has honest, pragmatic politicians? Listen to the Mayor of Maastricht (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-u3rD0h-hRk)