Alembic Guitars Club
Connecting => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: darkstar01 on December 27, 2010, 04:15:37 PM
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Anybody have any experience with hanging your guitars/basses? I just moved into a new apartment and I'm thinking it would be great, and I don't really have the closet space for all of my basses. the one thing I'm worried about is my new series 1 (which is another story all together). those of you that have one know how heavy they are. also, I wouldn't know the first thing about installing these things. any thoughts?
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We've got everything hanging in the showroom here, on Maple hangers we made. Mount them on studs if at all possible. Molly or toggle bolts if you can't, but I'm never 100% confident with those, though none has ever failed me.
I admit I was taken aback when the last doubleneck through here was hanging by one neck on a hanger, but it was totally fine and safe.
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I hang all my stuff. No problems so far. There's more to the right and behind!!!
(http://club.alembic.com/Images/449/92611.jpg)
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I hang mine too. I make sure I screw them into studs, like Mica suggested. It really helps with small spaces. I just wish I could hang all my basses. (http://club.alembic.com/Images/449/92615.jpg)
Nick
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I used to have my two Almbics hanging side-by-side on the wall of our old appartment, like this:
(http://club.alembic.com/Images/449/92640.jpg)
This on a concrete supporting wall, using K&M hangers, nice big stainless screws, and some heavy duty (though plastic) Fischer screw anchors.
Unfortunately there's not enough wall space in the livingroom of our new house ...
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Nick -
Kramer 650! I got one new when the first came out (must have been the late 70's). I had it hacked up at Starz Guitars in SF around 1980, replacing the original pickups with Bartolinis after being frustrated with the tone of the original electronics (it was not particularly better!). I still have the bass in the big brown Calzone flight case that it came in, although I haven't had it out in over a decade, I'm sure. I'm going to start digging today!
My main bass back then was a Stingray. I loved the way the Kramer felt and sounded unplugged, but
never achieved an amplified sound that I liked at the time. Maybe I'll like it more now!
David Fung
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I currently have 16 instruments on the walls. I ran out of space so the rest are in a rack and a couple of stands. I have Off The Wall brand hangers. They are cast base with 3 point reverse triangle design and can switch holders when need be.Never ever had a problem with them.(http://club.alembic.com/Images/449/92649.jpg)
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I stopped hanging my alembics and acoustic guitars on the wall as they are never in tune when i pick them off to play. I presume it's because of neck movement caused by temperature changes in the room. Maybe it would be ok if the wall was an internal one.
Jazzyvee
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Danno... did you have any trouble hitting the stud on the top of the hanger (it looks like about a 1+ spread between the 2 screw holes).
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The walls are sheetrock over metal studs covered with sturdy paneling so I put them where I want with regular sheet rock screws. More than enough grip.
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I'm hung as well.
(http://club.alembic.com/Images/449/92658.jpg)
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You can also bridge the studs with a piece of wood and then space the hangers as you prefer. I used 1/2 by 4 walnut and secure it to the studs (as many as needed) by 2 1/2 screws.
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I did the same thing as Jon (above). Much easier to get a nice sturdy foundation to mount the actual hangers to. I used these String Swing hangers (https://www.stringswing.com/products/product.php?base_product_id=108) mounted to 1/2 x 6 oak. I ripped the oak down to about 1/2 x 5 for purely aesthetic reasons. It's a rock solid mounting surface for my various basses.
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David-
Yeah, buddy. I got this one in the early 80's. It was my third bass. First one was a fender mustang, then a p-bass copy, Dixon I think, then the 650. I beat this one good! I too never got the tone I was looking for.And, it's freakin' heavy! I too have the original brown case. After that I got a Gibson EB3. Liked the neck, hated the tone. All of one tone from those basses. Then I played Fenders for 10 plus yrs, till I got my Hyak. After that was stolen I got my first Alembic and never looked back. What's up with your search for a beater to play?
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I think that bridging the studs as Jon & Brian have done above is quite advantageous. One can then screw into the studs every 16 on center, or every stud depending on the framing layout of your structure. It might be a good idea to pre-drill pilot holes and use long screws. One could counter sink the screws on the bridge boards or use nice finish washers. Just some of my thoughts.
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Of course another way to go would be to call Mica and order a custom build of their genuine Alembic display case wide enough to cover the wall.
(http://club.alembic.com/Images/449/92682.jpg)
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That Dave is the ultimate solution to my eyes as well . My vivid imagination might add security lazer beams .___LOL
http://hacknmod.com/hack/how-to-diy-aser-security-systems/ (http://hacknmod.com/hack/how-to-diy-aser-security-systems/)
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Laser beams! Cool!
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Thanks for posting the display case, Dave. I was just thinking earlier today about the thread containing it and wondering about the best way to search for it.
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Here's another shot.
(http://club.alembic.com/Images/449/92691.jpg)
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Isn't that at Guitar Showcase in San Jose now? In fact, I think you can see a shot of it on their website (http://www.guitarshowcase.com/ target=_blank) - scroll down on their home page and wait for it!
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Busy little web site, but yes, I see it there.
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Wow Dave...almost 10,000 posts !!
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Yeah, I noticed that too.
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Nick -
On the Kramer 650B... Let's see, my first bass was the Fender Telecaster bass from the late 70's. I had the first model which was a reissue of the original Precision, with single-coil pickup and a totally slab body. The previous owner had stripped the kind of weird beige thick-skin paint that they had and it actually looked pretty good in natural except for a big seam in the body wood that wasn't in the middle. I didn't like the P- or J-Basses of that age (mid-70's), and the Tele bass was even clunkier, but was the right price at the right time.
My second was a Rick 4001 in Jetglo black. It looked really cool and was nice to play, but didn't really sound great. I've played good Ricks from that same period, and mine was definitely not great - a lot of those 70's Ricks have a really wimpy sounding bridge pickup and I think my neck was on the flexy side too.
My third was a Gibson EB-3L, which was the long scale EB-3. It was really well made and really comfortable to play, although it had horrible balance on a strap. Only one tone, as you mention, and it was the wrong one for me. I wish I still had that one though. I never should have sold this one. I bought an EB-3 many years later (this was a 60's one instead of 70's) and it's good for what it is, still sounds sort of bad, and wasn't as pleasing to play as the long-scale one.
I got the Kramer next. I remember visiting Evanston, IL to look at Northwestern while in high school, and stopping off at a music store for a few minutes there. They sold Travis Bean, which I had seen in magazines, but never in person (I grew up in Iowa). I really liked that bass. Back at home, I asked our local little store in Ames, IA about getting a Travis Bean. They couldn't do that, but signed up as one of the original Kramer dealers. I got the 650 there, after playing a 450 that they had. I liked the way it felt and played, but the amplified sound was never that great, very thin compared to the unplugged sound.
I got a Stingray around 1979 or 1980 and basically used that for many years. It's funny, this turned into a very valuable Stingray over the years, but just like the Rick it was not a particularly good one tonally.
By 1983 or so, I got my first Modulus and that's been my main thing since. It's kind of funny, I have *many* Modulus instruments including many very fancy ones (thru-bodies, 8-string, even a 12-string), but my favorite one these days is the very first one I got which was a Modulus BassStar neck on pretty vanilla kit P-body with an EMG pickup. When I was more actively playing, this simple guy didn't lend itself well to complicated playing, but as I've gotten older and slower, I've really circled back to this one.
David Fung
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Wallhanging (displaying) your guitars is very cool as I display a few of mine however I still have to store the cases away so I dont see how it would save any closet space. Unless ofcourse you're going to display you cases also
Just a thought!
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I currently have 7 wall hangers up in my house. I have used these things for years... I like the way they leave floor space cleared up. I did have one problem with one once: the material that touched the neck/headstock of the guitar scuffed up the finish of the instrument. I tossed that hanger...
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I have a few hangers and intend to add a couple, so I rotate what hangs up(14 instruments currently) like changing artworks...Tony