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Connecting => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: flpete1uw on July 31, 2015, 10:25:51 AM
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Hey guys,
Has anyone had any experience with Bergantino cabs?
I was thinking about the CN-212.
http://bergantino.com/product/cn212-loudspeaker/ (http://bergantino.com/product/cn212-loudspeaker/)
Curious what neo speakers were in them.
Just throwing it out there with I crew I trust!
Pete
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I've owned a HT-112 for about 15 years or so and love it. For 5-string electric it works great in tandom with my BagEnd single 15. Where the Bergantino 12 really shines for me is with upright.
The HT-112 is the old heavy design (it weighs in at about 48 lbs). I would trust Bergantino if they say that the neo loaded cabs have the same tone. I really like the tone.
I remember the dealer telling me he asked Bergantino what made his cabs that much better. The reply, as I recall, was, I got the tweeter RIGHT.
FWIW
C-Ya..............wayne
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I don't know anything about Bergantino cabinets, but I suggest you check out AccuGroove also before you buy.
http://www.accugroovellc.com/# (http://www.accugroovellc.com/#)!basskeyboards/c1d11
I have the El Whappo & Wedgie & they are the most amazing sounding cabinets I have ever used. I thought my Series II Europa sounded good through my Eden boxes, but the AccuGrooves blow them away! I could never quite get the tone I had in my head until I got my AccuGroves. They have tons of bottom & crystal clear highs, & you can get any sound you want out of them. They are very lightweight too, the El Whappo is a 4 way with 15/12/6/& dual tweeter, & it only weighs 58 pounds. The Wedgie is a 3 way with 12/6/dual tweeter & only weighs 29 pounds. It is more than adequate for any club gig & cuts through the stage volume with 2 guitars & acoustic drums easily. I will never buy another cabinet.
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I have owned one for about a year and love it. It is tight and has great mid presence and a smooth high end. I live a few miles from Jim Bergantino's shop and was playing regularly on his development floor with a guy who works in the same building. I got to use a few different Bergantino cabs while I was there, including the CN112, CN212, AE212, and some heavy 410 beast. No doubt that a stack of 410s would have been the choice if I were joining Black Sabbath. The AE212 might have sounded a little less articulate than the CN212 if you were looking for a vintage warm tone with easy transport. The CN cabinets provide great note definition as well as a very smooth and musical response across the spectrum.
One day, I brought the Schroeder cabinet that I had been gigging for the previous several years and did an A/B with the CN212. No contest. My cabinet, that had been getting positive reviews from listeners for years, sounded like mud by comparison. Yeah, they're over $1000 for just a cabinet, but I'm very happy I paid the price.
I think Jim said something about getting the speakers from Italy. I don't know the details, but you should be able to call or email him and get an answer to any questions you might have. I recommend the cabinet, and the cover fits well in a way that doesn't have you fighting to get it on and off when you want to.
-bob
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I wound up trading cabinet I had listed for a Berg HD-212. I had no intention of moving to Bergantino, but the other cab was simply in my storage unit and had been listed for sale for a long time so I thought, Why not try something new? I am glad I did. This quickly became my favorite cabinet. So far it's come closest to the sound that I hear in my head
The HD-212 is heavy ~ 79 lbs, because it's loaded with two non-neo speakers with 80 oz magnets. But it's a great cab.
It definitely has a low-mid presence that is very musical. I believe the CN-212 is the lower-weight neo evolution of the cabinet I now own.
If I could have the tone I am now getting with the lighter weight of neodymium, I would do it in a second. But the HD-212 cabinet (+plus a nice folding dolly) is doing everything I need at the moment.
My primary application is blues, rock, folk-rock, & pop. I could see that the HD-212 might not be a great choice if you're after super-trebley slap tone.
I use the Berg cab at a blues jam I host (with a Genz-Benz ShuttleMax 12.0). It sees lots of different basses and sounds great with all of them. Bergantino gets a huge thumbs up in my book.
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Thanks guys,
All I hear is praise for the cn-212 and for that matter anything Bergantino wherever I look.
Rusty, been monitoring your praise for the Whappo and will certainly be considered when I pull the trigger.
Pete
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Pete, the AccuGroove's use the Italian speakers too. I'm sure you can't go wrong with either brand. Good luck!
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No experience with the CN-212, but I have an older ported 2x10 with an adjustable tweeter that I'm fond of.
Big sound in a small box and top-notch craftsmanship.
Sounds particularly good with my SWR 750X.
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I love my cn-212! It's got great tone and by itself will fill a small to medium size club no problem. I do pair mine with a berg 15 as well for larger venues. The large full tone out of the cn-212 is hard to believe.
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Does anyone know much about the Bergantino HT112? There's one for sale locally for $379, looks to be in decent shape, just wondering if that's a good price.
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Sounds like a typical price. Other than that they are pricey, I can't remember hearing too many negatives about any Bergantino cabinet. I would look on TalkBass a little for comments on the cab and possible information on previous sales.
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Thanks, bsee. I poked around TalkBass a little, I'll look some more. So far what I've seen is that people like the sound, but this model looks to be at least 10 years old, so I'll look some more for current pricing.
Thanks!