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Title: After market LED Fret Markers.
Post by: jazzyvee on December 28, 2015, 04:26:41 PM
I have some FretFX markers on one of my basses and want add LED's to a couple of mu guitars, but have recently noticed this other company making them at a very competitive price in comparison and wondered if anyone here has tried them?  
 
I'm thinking of getting some for my Orion guitar and alembic powered strat.  
 
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fender-Guitar-Scale-Fiber-Optic-LED-Fret-Marker-Lights-25-5-24-frets-scale-/281892701870?hash=item41a21d46ae:g:ICYAAOSwa39U0mSc (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fender-Guitar-Scale-Fiber-Optic-LED-Fret-Marker-Lights-25-5-24-frets-scale-/281892701870?hash=item41a21d46ae:g:ICYAAOSwa39U0mSc)
Title: After market LED Fret Markers.
Post by: lbpesq on December 28, 2015, 05:03:31 PM
Jazzy:
 
These are quite different from the FretFX markers.  The FretFX are actual, individual LEDs.  The Fretoptix is a single LED that mounts behind the headstock and has a fiber-optic line running down the side of the guitar.  If you go to their website and look CLOSELY, (very closely, they appear to be trying to hide this part of their product),  you will see that these require a fiber optic line running from behind the headstock to the front in a big loop (likely in the way of the tuners) and then runs down the side.  I would suspect the side markers are not as big or bright as the actual LEDS.  Also, these won't work on a Strat which doesn't have 24 frets.
 
As is almost always the case, you get what you pay for.
 
Hope you have a healthy, happy, and musical New Year.
 
Bill, tgo
Title: After market LED Fret Markers.
Post by: edwin on December 28, 2015, 06:18:39 PM
I tried the FretOptix (although they were sold to me as FretFX). They were terrible and fell apart when I was trying to apply them. Since they were purchased cheaply through ebay, I had no recourse. Hopefully FretFX are more robust.
 
I tried the Luminlay inserts, too. Not really bright enough long enough to be considered competitive.  
 
If and when I try to get my fingerboard properly illuminated, I'm going to do it right. A local luthier offered to install them on my Starfire, but I think I'd want it done in Santa Rosa, if at all. I really like the current fingerboard.
 
(Message edited by edwin on December 28, 2015)
Title: After market LED Fret Markers.
Post by: dtothec on December 28, 2015, 06:44:23 PM
I have fretfx on one of my Rogues and they are great, I have had no problem with them. They are bright and the battery last a long time.  As far as I know you can get them for almost any guitar because you specify what you are installing them on and they make them individually.  My other Rogue has factory LED's and the fretfx actually are a little brighter. I would definately purchase another set if I bought another bass without LED's. I would say it is money well spent!
Title: After market LED Fret Markers.
Post by: edwin on December 28, 2015, 07:25:58 PM
Good to know! Of course, time was when I played enough that I never had to look at the neck anyway....
Title: After market LED Fret Markers.
Post by: flpete1uw on December 28, 2015, 07:55:58 PM
Jazzy,
I have the Fretfx on both my 30 and 32 scale Alembics. As stated you let them know the measurements they do the rest. All info on their website. No problems here as well.  
Good luck!
Pete
Title: After market LED Fret Markers.
Post by: sonicus on December 28, 2015, 08:07:10 PM
Ultimately ,  not to look at the neck  and the development of muscle memory can be extremely satisfying. If we are reading music it is essential to pay attention to the sheet  music .  Keep your eyes on the road and your hands up on the wheel   . !  
 
Wolf
Title: After market LED Fret Markers.
Post by: dtothec on December 28, 2015, 09:05:08 PM
Try driving your car on a dark road with no lights, you can keep your eyes on the road but you still can't see squat. Lol!  
 
I've had to play on dark stages and I'll take the lights.
Title: After market LED Fret Markers.
Post by: sonicus on December 28, 2015, 09:14:43 PM
A good exercise to build muscle memory is to play an unlined fretless with your eyes closed, however your ears must be wide opened !  .  
 
  Wolf
Title: After market LED Fret Markers.
Post by: dtothec on December 28, 2015, 10:00:23 PM
Agreed!  It will also train your ears. ;-)
Title: After market LED Fret Markers.
Post by: rv_bass on December 29, 2015, 04:35:14 AM
I corresponded with FretFX a few months ago.  Apparently they are going to try to mass market specific scale lengths and short scale will no longer be offered.
Title: After market LED Fret Markers.
Post by: rustyg61 on December 29, 2015, 05:36:48 AM
I used to think there LED's were just bling for Stanley until I got my SCSD with LED's & now I see how functional they are & can't live without them! So I put Fret FX LED's on my Shecter & love them! Not nearly as good as Alembic LED's but much better than non illuminated markers.
Title: After market LED Fret Markers.
Post by: flpete1uw on December 29, 2015, 06:03:36 AM
Rob,
That could explain why it took over a month to get my 30 short scale LED's from Fretfx a few weeks ago. They also removed the E-Bay listing.  
When I started to inquire why it was taking so long on my paid for product they said they were overwhelmed (feasible, it was Christmas time) and they had to reset the que to get my order in.  
Maybe I got in just in time.  
I do like the product, I hope what your saying doesn't happen.
As Rusty stated they do come in handy.
Pete
Title: After market LED Fret Markers.
Post by: jazzyvee on December 29, 2015, 06:12:34 AM
rv_bass. I had a similar conversation with them on eBay recently and they confirmed what you said. I was about to bid on some but wanted the 30.75 scale length. The reply was, at the moment they can still make the custom scale length items but once they start to mass produce they cannot do that and in addition you will have to waive the warrantee before they will make one for you.
Title: After market LED Fret Markers.
Post by: Glynn on December 30, 2015, 02:20:29 AM
I had my Orion retro-fitted with side LEDs from Martin Sims :- www.simscustom.com (http://www.simscustom.com)
 
Superb job - not cheap but a proper job.
 
Glynn
Title: After market LED Fret Markers.
Post by: terryc on December 30, 2015, 03:15:00 AM
Murray, I had front face ones done 5 years ago, I agree not cheap but the workmanship is outstanding as you think it had been done at the build.
Mine is on the gallery, Gallery 1, fourth line down fourth one in far right.
Title: After market LED Fret Markers.
Post by: fmm on December 30, 2015, 09:06:30 AM
I installed FretFX on a student's bass.  They warn you about not lifting the bass by the neck after installation.  This is a real issue, by student broke his array by lifting his bass by the neck.  Because my Series I has short horns, this has kept me from purchasing a set of FretFX LEDs.
Title: After market LED Fret Markers.
Post by: rustyg61 on December 30, 2015, 03:09:08 PM
I've had my Fret FX LED's on my Schecter for over 2 years & always pick it up by the neck & have never had any problems. I could see it maybe having problems if you grab it down by the nut where the wires come off the neck, but I pick mine up around the middle of the neck with no issues.
Title: After market LED Fret Markers.
Post by: dtothec on January 05, 2016, 05:19:11 AM
I pick mine up by the neck all the time as well and I've never had a problem.