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Title: Recommendation for Tiny Guitar Speaker Cabinet
Post by: benson_murrensun on December 03, 2009, 11:01:16 AM
I just got one of those Electro Harmonix 22 Caliber amps; if you are not familiar with this crazy thing, it's a guitar amplifier in a box the size of a small stomp box, weighs less than most effects pedals, and cranks like mad, and sounds good, too. Continuing with the mini theme, can anyone recommend a very small speaker cabinet to go with this? Did I see some small Alembic-made speakers advertised for sale here not too long ago?
 
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Title: Recommendation for Tiny Guitar Speaker Cabinet
Post by: hydrargyrum on December 03, 2009, 01:28:00 PM
I can't help but brag about my Zvex Nano amp in this thread.  It's 1/2 watt dimed, all tube, and is mostly housed in one of his pedal enclosures (though to be fair, the tubes and transformer are on the top surface).  There are a number of discussions regarding small speaker cab's on his forum, for reasons similar to your own.  Maybe it would be helpful.
Title: Recommendation for Tiny Guitar Speaker Cabinet
Post by: benson_murrensun on December 04, 2009, 09:30:51 AM
I like the Zvex Nano. I had considered getting one; they do sound great. I went with the EH because of the price difference.
I will do a search for threads involving small speaker cabs; if anybody has a link, that would be great.
Title: Recommendation for Tiny Guitar Speaker Cabinet
Post by: hieronymous on December 08, 2009, 11:59:59 AM
How about ear candy (http://www.youtube.com/user/InTylerWeTrustUK#p/a/u/0/urPepsP645A target=_blank)? I've never used their stuff, but I think Bill TGO has one.
Title: Recommendation for Tiny Guitar Speaker Cabinet
Post by: benson_murrensun on December 10, 2009, 10:23:19 AM
Hieronymous,
I'm thinking you sent the wrong link???
Or I have been smokin' too much medicine...
Ben
Title: Recommendation for Tiny Guitar Speaker Cabinet
Post by: benson_murrensun on December 10, 2009, 10:53:30 AM
I found the ear candy website, via Google.
http://www.earcandycabs.com/products.php?req=read&product_id=94 (http://www.earcandycabs.com/products.php?req=read&product_id=94)  
Interesting stuff. The 1 x 6 might be just the ticket.
Title: Recommendation for Tiny Guitar Speaker Cabinet
Post by: benson_murrensun on December 10, 2009, 01:54:06 PM
I took the plunge and got a 1 x 6 ear candy cab. We'll see how it matches up with the EH 22 Cal.
Thanks for the suggestion, Hieronymous.
Title: Recommendation for Tiny Guitar Speaker Cabinet
Post by: hieronymous on December 10, 2009, 04:05:50 PM
LOL!!! Sorry about that! I'm glad you found the Ear Candy website, despite my best efforts! They look like a cool company, I've been tempted to order a 1X12 bass cab from them...
Title: Recommendation for Tiny Guitar Speaker Cabinet
Post by: lbpesq on December 10, 2009, 06:32:44 PM
I have a 2x12 Earcandy cab.   Here's a link (http://www.earcandycabs.com/articles.php?req=read&article_id=95) to the article about my cab on the Earcandy site.   Tim makes an excellent product as far as I can tell. I also have a stock Earcandy 2x12 that I bought off of craigslist.  I ordered the custom without speakers and loaded it with a Tone Tubby and a JBL D-120 reconed in hemp by Tone Tubby.  One thing though, if you get a custom it might take a lot longer than expected (mine did).  Sound familiar?  I think it's SOP for the custom music instrument and accessory industry.
 
Bill, tgo
Title: Recommendation for Tiny Guitar Speaker Cabinet
Post by: David Houck on December 18, 2009, 04:29:25 PM
Bill; the pics of your cab look great!
Title: Recommendation for Tiny Guitar Speaker Cabinet
Post by: gtrguy on December 23, 2009, 01:56:59 PM
If you want to see a real odd pair, try running the tiny Zinky battery powered amp into a marshall 4x12 cab. It actually will power it and sound pretty good.
Title: Recommendation for Tiny Guitar Speaker Cabinet
Post by: benson_murrensun on December 24, 2009, 12:28:13 PM
I got the 1 x 6 cab, tried it last night, and it has some gnarly-sounding artifacts at anything above a low volume, like the cone is defective. I have a call and email in to Tim at Ear Candy cabs.
Title: Recommendation for Tiny Guitar Speaker Cabinet
Post by: benson_murrensun on January 05, 2010, 11:26:00 AM
Tim is sending me a replacement driver.
Title: Recommendation for Tiny Guitar Speaker Cabinet
Post by: lbpesq on January 05, 2010, 08:16:01 PM
Ben:
 
If you speak with Tim again, tell him I said hello.
 
Bill, tgo
Title: Recommendation for Tiny Guitar Speaker Cabinet
Post by: benson_murrensun on January 06, 2010, 10:18:51 AM
Will do, Bill.
BTW, regulation of the medical marijuana industry in Colorado is all over the news right now. (I am only mentioning this because I think you are involved in that issue on a professional basis?)
Title: Recommendation for Tiny Guitar Speaker Cabinet
Post by: lbpesq on January 06, 2010, 09:41:24 PM
Ben:
 
You are correct.  The leading attorneys on this issue in Colorado are friends of mine.  And I help to organize the NORML Legal Seminar in Aspen every June.
 
Bill, tgo
Title: Recommendation for Tiny Guitar Speaker Cabinet
Post by: bigbass on January 13, 2010, 01:10:43 PM
While this is only TINY compared to Marshall Stacks.....
 
Get yourself one or two of those older EA 110 cabs that is a three way cab from 12 tears ago. Power it with a dual mono block Marshall (9100 or 9200) and an Alembic pre-amp. Use only Sylainia 5751 or 7025 NOS or even a really beat-up pair in the preamp. You won't believe it!!! It even sounds great on BASS!
Title: Recommendation for Tiny Guitar Speaker Cabinet
Post by: benson_murrensun on January 14, 2010, 08:35:43 AM
While that sounds like a great portable combination, my search parameters included not only a tiny amp and speaker, but a diminutive price, as well. Between the Ear Candy speaker and the E H amp, I have $200 invested.
While I am waiting on a replacement driver for the Ear Candy cab, last weekend I used the E H amp with my 1 x 15 Alamo cabinet (loaded with a Jensen from a long time ago...) and a Boss reverb pedal. It was VERY satisfying.
Title: Recommendation for Tiny Guitar Speaker Cabinet
Post by: benson_murrensun on January 28, 2010, 10:24:12 AM
I got a replacement speaker from Tim at Ear Candy. I was dismayed to find that I am having the same problem with the new one. So I did some more investigating (something I should have done first). The speaker sounds fine with two other amps I tried. The little 22 Caliber amp sounds fine with another speaker I have. The only thing I can think of that can be causing this amp/speaker combination to be problematic is the ohm rating of the cabinet (4 ohms). Electro Harmonix says the amp will work with 4 - 16 ohms loads, but that 8 ohms is preferable. It's a theory...  but only a theory. I wonder if things would be different if I had ordered an 8-ohm cabinet from Ear Candy rather than the 4-ohm one.
Title: Recommendation for Tiny Guitar Speaker Cabinet
Post by: sonicus on January 28, 2010, 10:56:12 AM
Typically the lower the load impedance of the speaker the higher the resulting RMS watts output of the amp.  Therefore as an example if an amp is rated for 22 watts RMS @ 8 OHMS you might be getting 44  watts RMS @ 4 OHMS. This is the case in many amp designs . What is the output power rating of the amp in question ?
Title: Recommendation for Tiny Guitar Speaker Cabinet
Post by: benson_murrensun on January 28, 2010, 11:02:23 AM
It's supposed to be 22 watts, but I don't know if that's RMS, or at what resistance. I doubt that little amp could put out 44 watts RMS... but then again, 22 watts seems like a lot for something that tiny!
Title: Recommendation for Tiny Guitar Speaker Cabinet
Post by: benson_murrensun on January 28, 2010, 12:00:27 PM
I just got an email from Electro-Harmonix, and here's what they had to say: Hi Ben,
Unfortunately the unit does not work with a 4 ohm cabinet.  
 We do not have a fix for this at this moment so if the unit does not work for you, you may want to return it.
Which kind of conflicts with their product description,  Electro-Harmonix is pleased to announce the new 22 Caliber Power Amp, a versatile 22-watt guitar head that fits in the palm of your hand. Just plug it into any 4-, 8- or 16-ohm speaker, and you'll get a big, sweet musical sound.  NOT NECESSARILY!!!!
Title: Recommendation for Tiny Guitar Speaker Cabinet
Post by: sonicus on January 28, 2010, 02:32:34 PM
Perhaps the Ear Candy folks might be accommodating to sending you an 8 OHM unit in exchange if you told them the circumstances .
Title: Recommendation for Tiny Guitar Speaker Cabinet
Post by: benson_murrensun on January 28, 2010, 02:49:08 PM
Sonicus,
 
That's exactly what is happening! Tim at Ear Candy said to ship my cab back and he will install a special order 8-ohm speaker for a nominal price. Great service from Ear Candy; not-so-great from E.H. I could do it myself but the speakers are not exactly the same size, so he wants to do it himself.
Title: Recommendation for Tiny Guitar Speaker Cabinet
Post by: sonicus on January 28, 2010, 02:58:07 PM
I am glad to see that there is a positive outcome to this story. I will remember that regarding  the great service from Ear Candy .
Title: Recommendation for Tiny Guitar Speaker Cabinet
Post by: hieronymous on February 01, 2010, 03:36:46 PM
Thank goodness! I've been feeling badly that maybe I steered you wrong. But it looks like Ear Candy is a standup company!
Title: Recommendation for Tiny Guitar Speaker Cabinet
Post by: benson_murrensun on February 04, 2010, 11:19:20 AM
Tim has been great. I shipped the cab back to him for the new, 8-ohm, speaker to be installed. The new speaker has very different specs from the other; it's rated at 100 watts and has more lows and less highs, which, if I had my druthers, I would prefer anyway. We'll see how it sounds when I get it back.
Title: Recommendation for Tiny Guitar Speaker Cabinet
Post by: benson_murrensun on March 10, 2010, 02:05:43 PM
OK, I finally got the cabinet back from Ear Candy on Friday, with the custom 100-watt 6-in. speaker (8-ohm) in it. Almost 3 months to get this thing, with all the glitches and hitches... but as we Alembicians know, you want high quality custom stuff you have to wait for it. It looks the same but is quite a bit heavier. I will be testing it out in the next couple of days and will report back.