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Alembic products => Alembic Basses & Guitars => Topic started by: hendixclarke on April 26, 2009, 09:45:58 PM
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Stanley backgrounds Rap Hip Hop?
I guess he needs the money...
I an in tears.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucgbaeKBbqE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucgbaeKBbqE)
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I am in tears if this is where my hero ends up...
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It was a benefit show and he looks to have had fun.
You can't fault an artist for giving back, raising money, and having fun all at once. Good for/on him!
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you're forgetting that stanley featured rap / hip hop on his album 1,2, to the bass - the title track was rapped by Q-tip (bet that's not his real name).
I wonder why you're in tears, just because your hero chooses to stay in work. Diversifying is what has made him great.
Graeme
(Message edited by jacko on April 27, 2009)
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Don't forget Stanley's rap cover of Springsteen's Born In the USA
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It was a tongue and cheek fun. Stanley can play anywhere, and the music will still sound good. It was just strange at first glance seeing him playing along with sampled prerecorded music.
I love Chuck D's Public Enemy Fight-The-Power I just wished it was done completely live!
Near the end of the video, Stanley got raw and funky. That was the best part of the tape. That was Public Enemy with Stanley Clarke. He turned the tables around, just like that, and made the song more funky!
The video got better towards the end...
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The Late and Great Gregory Hines and Stan...
Blues-Tap
That's the Alembic Sound!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCzV3erpow4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCzV3erpow4)
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Things that make you go hmmmmm.
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I couldn't had said it better Olie... you nailed it.
Pop (Samples), Hip Hop(Samples), Rap(Samples), no matter what it is... Real talent will always be bolder, brighter, cleaner, and recognized.
Nothing please me more than a real live band!
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As one of the comments on YouTube says, Stanley wrote the soundtrack on the film/movie Boyz n the Hood.
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Hey, that video has nothing on this:
Born in the USA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZhNQhl6qUQ)
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Stan is just too talented to play out of his league. People who know his music, expect more. Once you give people your best, they expect nothing less.
Music is no different than any product you buy. When you buy something of quality, and then the next day, its cut with additives and sold at a higher cost, you sacrifice a loyal fan base to gain only fad consumers.
Its very difficult to diversity great talent, to a fad level of music; especially if people see you as a single artist.
Say the word: Prince, Santana, Joe Satriani, Robert Cray their music it consistent to the genera.
Herbie Hancock did Rockit and it was a successful Hip-Hop cut but for those people who would expect more of this kind of music from Herbie, would be hugely disappointed because he's a Jazz man.
As for Stanley, he's in that circle of distinguished musicians as well, so maybe he should just stick to playing quality music (which he is now... Victor and Markus keeping him on the one for the 80's was a bad trip).
If you asked me, there was nothing wrong with RETURN TO FOREVER, in the first place.
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maybe he should just stick to playing quality music.
hal. I'm surprised and somewhat shocked you've come out with this statement. Just because you don't like the hip hop music Stanley played doesn't mean it's any lower quality than any other music he's made.
Stanley is the calibre of player that can pick and choose what he wants to be involved with and you can guarantee that he has put his best efforts into everything he's ever played. Are you saying you're only a fan of a certain style of Stanley Clarke music? I for one can appreciate all the music he has played. Some of it rarely hits my turntable as it's maybe not my favourite but I'd certainly never dismiss it as lower quality as you seem to have.
Graeme
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We have a saying in Dutch: The bow cannot always be drawn.
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My Father is a Jazz purist, and thinks all jazz should be played acoustically first, then electrified.
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About 3:50 into that clip you can see the other bass pretty clearly. Is that one of those old Modulus Graphite headless basses?
John
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John -
I think the other bass in this video is a late model Steinberger Synapse bass. A own a couple of those old Modulus Flight Monocoque basses and the shape of the body and end of the neck are pretty distinctively shaped. Also the Flight bass has regular bass tuners mounted on the body end, but this bass doesn't look like it has that.
David Fung
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I am confused, there seems to be a negative underlying tone here. Stan is the Man - he can play anything and make it groove (anyone ever hear him play with Keith Richards and Ronnie Wood in the New Barbarians?).
What's the problem with P.E.?
They are a well respected group, just because one of their front men decides to do a 'reality' tv shows does not take away from their legacy.
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Perhaps I should add the English near equivalent of that Dutch saying: All work and no play make Jack a dull boy.
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I was wondering Adriaan ;-). The translation makes much more sense and you make a very good point. Getting up to play an unusual (for him) genre must be like a breath of fresh air to Stanley sometimes. I bet he gets fed up to the teeth playing School days all the time. In fact, when I saw him in london a couple of years ago he only played a couple of bars of Schooldays before launching into something else. Disappointing for me (and Jazzy and Mike) but Stanley was able to slot something different into his set.
Graeme
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Look when you are as famous as Stanley Clarke you can play what you want and I agree with jacko, I bet his Alembic can play 'School days' on it's own.
It's all about variety, try something different but but your own style into it..I once played in a ceilidh band and slapped a solo in it, the other guys were shocked as there regular bass player just played the usual lines..okay maybe not in context to the style but it was fun.
The world would be a boring place if there was no variety.
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My live performances had never required the support of a onstage DJ.
Maybe, that's what I'ved been missing for the past 40 years...
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hendixclarke..you should try it..it is no different than practicing to a drum machine, I did it once and it was fun, the DJ was very good at the mixing and scratching..I wouldn't do it all the time but as a one off it was, as I said fun and different.
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Sounds like a lot of fun... I get it now.
That was a very good point.