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Connecting => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: hendixclarke on June 24, 2009, 09:21:33 AM
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Time for a profile moment...
If you could pick one drummer, who would you go with that embodies your best bass playing style and accents?
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dunno...but I'd love to Jam with Purdie
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Hands Down, Vinnie Colaiuta. Play with cat like him you either up your skillz....
....or quit!
OO
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Pat Betts
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Ringo Star. Definitely Ringo . . .
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I really like Mike Clark's work. I think that he could just about do it all. But then there is Mickey Hart and Bill Kreutzmann. Dave Garibaldi, Gene Krupa______OOOOOO Thats more then one! Well lets see?
(Message edited by sonicus on June 25, 2009)
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A) Dennis Chambers
B) Someone who can count
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han bennink. or dave king.
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Keith Moon...... :-)
WHO ARE YOU, the ultimate german tribute to THE WHO.....
Oliver (Spyderman)
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I may be in the minority here, but I've always been of the opinion that less is definitely more with a drummer. Someone who can play quietly, and doesn't feel the need for 37 cymbals and a gong is a good sign. For that matter, why use a drummer at all? Bluegrass as a genre does pretty well without one. All that being said, the drummer in our band is simply incredible, and it makes a huge difference in the quality of everyone's playing to have him around.
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At the moment, I don't have a bass playing style. Recent evidence suggests that if I keep practicing everyday, perhaps I might have one in another year or two, or three, or some other significant period of time.
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I am very lucky in that I have already found my dream drummer - Greg DeGuglielmo (http://www.myspace.com/gregdeguglielmo target=_blank). He's the drummer on most of my recordings. He is influenced by several of the people mentioned in this thread - kind of a combination of Mickey Hart & Bill Kreutzmann, but also jazz drummers like Tony Williams, Jack DeJohnette, etc., plus Mike Clark, Jim Keltner, Steve Gadd, etc. etc., just an all around musical guy! He can lay down the fattest groove, and then be improvising with the ability to head in a different direction in an instant.
If I had to choose one famous drummer, it would probably be Jack DeJohnette, especially from the Live Evil phase...
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I like playing with Drummers that know the Basic Drum Rudiments of which there are 40 .
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Neil Peart
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Okay, so I did a search for the Drum Rudiments. It's been a while since I saw a page full of english words, and had absolutely no clue what half of them were. However, I can guess their meaning, given the onomatopoeia'ic nature of most of the words. And they look really fun to use in daily conversation:
Hey Bob, did you hear the flam paradiddle diddle, and the ratamacue in that last song? I sure like it.
Yeah I heard, but I prefer a little more flamacue, and pataflafla in my music.
/and so forth
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An understanding of Drum Rudiments to a Drummer is much like an understanding of Musical Scales or words or letters of the alphabet in language.
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Omar Hakim is my pick from the list below:
(Message edited by hendixclarke on June 24, 2009)
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Dave Abbruzzese
Larry Aberman
Matt Abts
Alex Acu?a
Daniel Adair
Chris Adler
Morgan Agren
Airto
Tommy Aldridge
Steve Alexander
Tim Alexander
Rashied Ali
Don Alias
Carl Allen
Barry Altschul
Robby Ameen
Scott Amendola
Animal
Charly Antolini
Carmine Appice
Vinny Appice
Kenny Aronoff
Billy Ashbaugh
Al Ashley
Mick Avory
Babatunde
Ginger Baker
Jeff Ballard
Paul Barbarin
Joe La Barbera
Travis Barker
Barriemore Barlow
Joey Baron
Julio Barreto
Ray Barretto
Ray Bauduc
Eddie Bayers
Marcus Baylor
Frank Beard
Carter Beauford
Poogie Bell
Louie Bellson
Frank Bellucci
Charlie Benante
Brian Bennett
Han Bennink
Joe Bergamini
Jon Bermuda Schwartz
Ignacio Berroa
Denzil Best
Curt Bisquera
Gregg Bissonette
Jason Bittner
Roger Biwandu
Dave Black
James Black
Cindy Blackman
Ed Blackwell
John Blackwell
Brian Blade
Hal Blaine
J.D. Blair
Art Blakey
Michael Bland
Jason Bonham
John Bonham
Gergo Borlai
Paul Bostaph
Terry Bozzio
Dirk Brand
Jimmy Branly
Tom Brechtlein
Don Brewer
Gulli Briem
Gerry Brown
Bill Bruford
Ronald Bruner Jr.
Mark Brzezicki
Roy Burns
William Calhoun
Matt Cameron
Clayton Cameron
Gorden Campbell
Teddy Campbell
Tommy Campbell
Danny Carey
Keith Carlock
Bun E. Carlos
Eric Carr
Terri Lyne Carrington
Joey Castillo
Lenny Castro
Deen Castronovo
Big Sid Catlett
Andr? Ceccarelli
Gary Chaffee
Matt Chamberlain
Jimmy Chamberlin
Dennis Chambers
Joe Chambers
Ndugu Chancler
Jim Chapin
Gary Chester
Dave DiCenso
Kenny Clare
Mike Clark
Kenny Clarke
Jimmy Cobb
Bill Cobham
Vinnie Colaiuta
Cozy Cole
Chris Coleman
Cora Coleman-Dunham
Tony Coleman
Phil Collins
Grant Collins
Bobby Colomby
Aaron Comess
Luis Conte
Tr? Cool
Ray Cooper
Stewart Copeland
Mike Cosgrove
Paulinho Da Costa
Kirk Covington
Mark Craney
Peter Criss
Adam Cruz
Abe Cunningham
Mickey Curry
Andrew Cyrille
Nick D'Virgilio
Paulinho Da Costa
Brann Dailor
Dino Danelli
Zach Danziger
Flo Dauner
Troy Davis
Alan Dawson
Barrett Deems
Jimmy DeGrasso
Adam Deitch
Jack DeJohnette
Kenwood Dennard
John Densmore
Liberty De Vitto
Dave DiCenso
Warren Baby Dodds
John Dolmayan
Virgil Donati
Famadou Don Moye
Hamid Drake
Bernie Dresel
Martin Drew
Drumbassadors
Billy Drummond
Aynsley Dunbar
Sly Dunbar
Sheila E.
Phil Ehart
Paul Elliott
Sonny Emory
Daniel Erlandsson
Peter Erskine
Dom Famularo
Pierre Favre
Sherman Ferguson
Steve Ferrone
Anton Fig
Vera Figueiredo
Sammy Figueroa
Larry Finn
Jon Fishman
Mick Fleetwood
D.J. Fontana
Al Foster
Vernel Fournier
Panama Francis
Brian Frasier-Moore
Josh Freese
Kiko Freitas
Steve Gadd
Camille Gainer
Richie Gajate-Garcia
David Garibaldi
Bob Gatzen
Jason Gianni
Leonard Doc Gibbs
Andy Gillmann
Daniel Glass
Evelyn Glennie
Alex Gonzalez
Jim Gordon
Danny Gottlieb
Lou Grassi
Jimmy DeGrasso
Rick Gratton
Eric Kamau Gravatt
Milford Graves
Benny Greb
Sonny Greer
Carola Grey
Rayford Griffin
Dave Grohl
Freddie Gruber
Donny Gruendler
John Guerin
Terreon Gully
Trilok Gurtu
Ralf Gustke
Tomas Haake
Wolfgang Haffner
Omar Hakim
Chico Hamilton
Jeff Hamilton
Lionel Hampton
Jake Hanna
Eric Harland
Buddy Harman
Beaver Harris
Gavin Harrison
Mickey Hart
Billy Hart
Steve Hass
Fritz Hauser
Roger Hawkins
Taylor Hawkins
Louis Hayes
David Haynes
Roy Haynes
Richie Hayward
Albert Tootie Heath
Levon Helm
Gerry Hemingway
Joey Heredia
Horacio Hernandez
Raymond Herrera
Claus Hessler
Gerald Heyward
Giovanni Hidalgo
Billy Higgins
Jeff Hirshfield
Jon Hiseman
Ari Hoenig
Gene Hoglan
Rodney Holmes
Steve Houghton
Daniel Humair
Jeremy Hummel
Ralph Humphrey
Gary Husband
Zakir Hussein
Greg Hutchinson
Susie Ibarra
Tommy Igoe
Tris Imboden
Al Jackson
Duffy Jackson
Gene Jackson
Jaimoe
Bobby Jarzombek
Akira Jimbo
Elvin Jones
Harold Jones
Hilary Jones
Philly Joe Jones
Papa Jo Jones
Randy Jones
Jack DeJohnette
Mylious Johnson
Steve Jordan
Joey Jordison
Jonathan Joseph
Eric Kalb
Manu Katch?
Frank Katz
Connie Kay
Jim Keltner
Will Kennedy
Billy Kilson
George Kollias
Glenn Kotche
Joey Kramer
Rhani Krija
Gene Krupa
Russ Kunkel
Joe La Barbera
Abe Laboriel, jr.
Gene Lake
Don Lamond
Thomas Lang
Dave Langguth
Shannon Larkin
Pete LaRoca Sims
Rick Latham
Trevor Lawrence Jr.
Ricky Lawson
Chris Layton
Tommy Lee
Felix M. Lehrmann
Paul Leim
Stan Levey
Mel Lewis
Victor Lewis
Pete Lockett
Dave Lombardo
Larrie Londin
Hakim Ludin
Ray Luzier
Pete Magadini
Mike Mangini
Shelly Manne
Brian Brain Mantia
Art Mardigan
Sherrie Maricle
Jerry Marotta
Rick Marotta
John Marshall
Billy Martin
Harvey Mason
Nick Mason
Dave Mattacks
Phil Maturano
JoJo Mayer
Nicko McBrain
George Spanky McCurdy
Matt McDonough
Ray McKinley
Russ McKinnon
Marvin McQuitty
Gustavo Meli
Sebastian Merk
Daniel Messina
Buddy Miles
Butch Miles
Russ Miller
Marco Minnemann
Mitch Mitchell
Joseph Ziggy Modeliste
Jonathan Moffett
Mark Mondesir
Drori Mondlak
TS Monk
Keith Moon
Stanton Moore
Airto Moreira
Joe Morello
Rod Morgenstein
Joe Morris
Nate Morton
Paul Motian
Alphonse Mouzon
Jonathan Mover
Don Moye
Idris Muhammad
Larry Mullen
Narada
Lewis Nash
Sandy Nelson
Andy Newmark
Jost Nickel
Gary Novak
Adam Nussbaum
Volkan ?ktem
Babatunde Olatunji
Jamie Oldaker
Nigel Olsson
John Otto
Ian Paice
Carl Palmer
Earl Palmer
Francis Panama
Chris Parker
Leon Parker
Jose Pasillas
Vinnie Paul
Jim Payne
Sonny Payne
Neil Peart
Roland Peil
Shawn Pelton
Clarence Penn
Chris Pennie
Armando Peraza
Karl Perazzo
Robert Perkins
Stephen Perkins
Ben Perowsky
Doane Perry
Charli Persip
Ralph Peterson
Pat Petrillo
Simon Phillips
Kim Plainfield
Felix Pollard
Joe Porcaro
Jeff Porcaro
Mike Portnoy
Cozy Powell
Bobby Previte
Thomas Pridgen
Aquiles Priester
Dafnis Prieto
Tito Puente
Bernard Purdie
Alvin Queen
Jeff Queen
Marc Qui?ones
Jaska Raatikainen
Johnny Rabb
Raul Rekow
The Reverend
Walfredo Reyes
Walfredo Reyes, Jr.
Buddy Rich
Dannie Richmond
Sean Rickman
Alex Riel
Ben Riley
Herlin Riley
Jim Riley
John Riley
Ringo
Max Roach
John J.R. Robinson
Pete LaRoca Sims
Derek Roddy
Mickey Roker
Bobby Rondinelli
Morgan Rose
Joel Rosenblatt
Tony Royster Jr.
Phil Rudd
Daniel Sadownick
Antonio Sanchez
Poncho Sanchez
Mongo Santamaria
Peter Schmidlin
Mark Schulman
Jon Bermuda Schwartz
Denny Seiwell
Danny Seraphine
Paco S?ry
Chad Sexton
Shakerleg
Gil Sharone
Ed Shaughnessy
Michael Shrieve
David Silveria
Terry Silverlight
Chuck Silverman
Pete LaRoca Sims
Eric Singer
Zutty Singleton
Andrew Small
Chad Smith
Marvin Smitty Smith
Nate Smith
Steve Smith
Travis Smith
Ed Soph
Matt Sorum
Marvin Sparks
Aaron Spears
Sp?g
Zak Starkey
John Jabo Starks
Ringo Starr
Ronnie Stephenson
Bill Stewart
Nisan Stewart
Ulf Stricker
Clyde Stubblefield
Fredy Studer
Todd Sucherman
James The Rev Sullivan
Grady Tate
Art Taylor
Roger Taylor
John Tempesta
Mike Terrana
Jon Theodore
Ed Thigpen
Jamal Thomas
Ahmir Thompson
Chester Thompson
Kim Thompson
Efrain Toro
Pat Torpey
Tico Torres
Dave Tough
Nat Townsley
Butch Trucks
Ron Tutt
Lars Ulrich
Christian Vander
Alex Van Halen
Ronnie Vannucci
Nana Vasconcelos
Carlos Vega
Glen Velez
Tony Verderosa
Ronnie Verrell
Johnny Vidacovich
Nick D'Virgilio
Chad Wackerman
Nasheet Waits
Narada Michael Walden
Bill Ward
Billy Ward
Kenny Washington
Derico Watson
Charlie Watts
Jeff Tain Watts
Chick Webb
Dave Weckl
Max Weinberg
Klaus Weiss
Paul Wertico
George Wettling
Alan White
Lenny White
Meg White
Steve White
Ron Wikso
Pete Wilhoit
Brad Wilk
Tony Williams
Matt Wilson
Shadow Wilson
Kenny Wollesen
Sam Woodyard
Dony Wynn
Pete York
Adrian Young
Mark Zonder
Zoro
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my drummer, Alain Mortier !!
hendixclarke, do you feel well ? you are not in the exess of the life ? ;o)
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I feel GREAT!
My Birthday is next Month!
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Bill Bruford, Mickey Hart, Spencer Dryden and Bernard Purdie come quickly to mind, with Dave Mattacks, Steve Kahn and Vinnie Coliauta following rapidly.
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I feel GREAT! My Birthday is next Month!
It was what I mean, you are just a little
accelerated in your mind !!
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As to the list of drummers...
I love them all.
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Hey everyone, which is you favorite page of the phone book? Copy it here!
Bill, tgo
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PETE FOSKETT!!! Eh' Mike?
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LOL, Bill you crack me up man!
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Oh, you mean the list...
Not even 1k of memory...
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Who's your favorite Lawyer?
[Crickets chirp]
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Hi Guys,
Nice topic.
I've been saying for years out of all the drummers 'out there' Steve Gadd is the one drummer who'd 'scare me' to play with. He's just sooo...darn good.
Weckl's no slouch, Cobham, White, Williams, they're all greats and I'd love to hit some 'serious' groove with any of 'em but Steve Gadd is in a league of his own. IMHO
Best Regards,
Kimberly
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i'd have to say John Bonham or Keith Moon for the rock side, and either Lars Ulrich or any drummer from Megadeth for my thrash side
~Taylor Watterson
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Well, there's one lawyer in particular whom I hold in extremely high regard; but this is a non-political blog so I won't mention his name here. But favorite lawyers I would like to jam with? Bill TGO is definitely one of my favorites!
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favorite politician to jam with, Mike Huckabee all the way
~Taylor Watterson
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Rod Morgenstein would be a very close second... if not Omar Hakim -- and was not available...
(Message edited by hendixclarke on June 24, 2009)
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Dummer than what?
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Playing music with others for the first time, is like a blind date...
The true question is: will there be a second jam session?
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favorite politician to jam with, Mike Huckabee all the way
He's the dude that looks like Jim Neighbors... Who plays the bass? HA HA HA!!!!
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Hal , I didn't see Paul Humphrey on your list.
(http://club.alembic.com/Images/393/66647.jpg)
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Yeah, he's got chops too... A Frank Zappa Drummer, like Terry Bozzio. I knew his name was familiar...
Thanks for his honorable mention.
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Yeah, he's got chops too... A Frank Zappa Drummer, like Terry Bozzio. I knew his name was familiar...
You're thinking of Ralph Humphrey. He was a drummer in Zappa's band in the early 70's. Played on 'Overnite Sensation' and 'Apostrophe' among other things.
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I remember Ray White, Frank Zappa's Rhythm Guitarist would stop by my drummers house to Jam with us. Ray loved my Series I, and I would just listen to his stories of upcoming gigs with Frank and the gang. Paul name came up a lot in those days, and he did play a few sets with Zappa too.
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I think Paul played on 'Hot Rats'.
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Politician to jam with? Clinton on sax. IMHO the saxophone is the sexiest instrument there is. I've heard the guy who invented it was naked at the time.
Bill, tgo
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Max Bennett played Bass on 'HOT RATS
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According to Clinton when it involves the mouth it ain't sex y!
OO
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Is there a lawyer in the house? Most drummers are going after something that isn't there.
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Ricky Wellman, Miles' last drummer and king of the go-go drummers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbuHfoBAhas (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbuHfoBAhas)
And Buddy Williams, the king of bass springboards:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiafsFiqN1w&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiafsFiqN1w&feature=related)
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Also, Sonny Emory (with Earth, Wind & Fire):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMPaUmPFYck (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMPaUmPFYck)
And my fave rock drummer, Mr. Tommy Dog Aldridge:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqe57Lz8LAA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqe57Lz8LAA)
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Who's your favorite Lawyer?
Chris Jackson in Aukland, new Zealand but only because he's my drummer. luckily I've never been caught doing anything serious enough to need hi service ;-)
Back on track, I'd love to play with mike Portnoy of Dream Theater as he seems to have a superb sense of humour and is skilled enough to be able to hide all my mistakes.
Graeme
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Phil Collins
listen to this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmP8NC2EOLE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmP8NC2EOLE)
slawie
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I'd rather play with a laid back groove drummer than many of the more technical drummers other have mentioned. I'll nominate Richard Hayward of Little Feat.
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Stewart Copeland or Ginger Baker
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Phil Collins
listen to this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmP8NC2EOLE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmP8NC2EOLE)
slawie
I love Brand X. What a completely amazing band that was. Shame that most people have no idea who they are. As insane as Phil's drumming could be with the Gabriel era Genesis he really got a chance to stretch out in Brand X.
I think Paul played on 'Hot Rats'.
I consulted The Book of Armaments (http://www.science.uva.nl/~robbert/zappa/albums/musicians/Paul_Humphrey.html) and it appears you are correct, sir.
If you're a Zappa freak that site is pretty much the best. LOTS of great information in one place about the huge list of musicians that played in his bands, live performances, albums, etc...
We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread topic.
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Phil Collins would be my strong third choice. Before all the Disney, Genesis... and his solo with Rappers (Bone Thugs and Harmony) it was BRAND X where I respect his drumming style.
Both, Phil and Percy Jones was the band.
Yeah, Phil is my #3 guy!
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Phil with Genesis...Drumming ONLY!!
(Hal, you need to listen to the RIGHT Genesis, when Peter Gabriel sang lead vocals. Find the Song Get 'em out by Friday and you'll understand...)
Ian Mosley - Marillion
Carl Palmer - ELP
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Wilson das Neves (Master brazilian drummer who played with Tom Jobin, Elis regina and Chico Buarque de Holanda)
Bernie Purdie (what can I say? The man GROOVES!)
Bill Brufford (I always loved King Crimson)
Stewart Copeland (The Police have turned me back to rock when I was getting freak on Fusion)
Max Roach (well, don't need to say anything)
Elvin Jones (if I can wish, I don't choose the BEST drummer/musician of all times?)
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Lenny White.
Tom Nelson, Drummer in my group Bop Top
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Oh, sorry... for the style I play?
Jo?o Parahyba. Not as well known as Airto, this guy plays Timba - one single long drum - with brushes and cymbals incredibly making all sounds you could wish from a drum set. He plays with Trio Mocot? and is better than any drummer on playng sambarock.
He played with Jorge Ben(jor) in the early 60's and, since then, played along with the greatest (as Chico Buarque, Miles Davies and Sarah Vaughan). Recently one french musical producer discovered one forgotten tape from Dizzie Gillespie playing with Mocot?. He is currently trying to release it, but seems there are some legal issues regarding who is the legal tape's owner.
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Okay a little off topic, but Mario's post got me thinking about the Cajon. Incredibly, the instrument does pretty much what Mario describes, imitating many of the sounds from a drum kit. Here is a demonstration I dug up real fast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J3FmmKdZUw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J3FmmKdZUw)
Sorry to threadjack.
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Just one, Levon Helm
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my dream drummer is ,one that gets to the gig early,keeps good time.and knows when not to solo.
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my dream drummer is ,one that gets to the gig early,keeps good time.and knows when not to solo.
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Greg Errico--killer backbeat,but solid, solid groove. Doesn't rush, doesn't lag, doesn't fill up a lot of space. One half(the other half being Larry Graham)of what was arguably one of the best rhythm sections of all time.
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Karen Carpenter!
John.
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I know Scott Rockenfield of Queensryche wouldn't make everybody's list but in my opinion he's a powerhouse. I'd love to play a gig with him.
Rich
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Dale Crover from the Melvins...killer!
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Metronome
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my dream drummer is ,one that gets to the gig early,keeps good time.and knows when not to solo.
Stephen has the same ideals as I do in a drummer!!! :-D
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I've been gigging with my favorite drummer in all the world, Will Cox. It's as though he reads my mind before I know what I'm thinking. I know I am truly blessed.
John
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That's really cool John - that is when you know the magic is happening, when two (or more) minds effortlessly float through a song.
I should add to my earlier post,,, I also like a drummer who isn't afraid to practice on his own! Band practice is for the band,,,, not the drummer to 'try out some new stuff that he was thinking about'.
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Neil Peart. Or Bill Bruford.
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+1 to Phil Collins
Derrick McKenzie
and...
...Jeff Pocaro, Tony Thompson, if they were still living.
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Hendrixclarke: you forgot one ;) I nominate Tony Allen of Fela Kuti Fame. Talk about meter. The man is a rock. He also just released a fantastic new afrobeat album reminiscent of his time with Fela.
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for me:
Terry Bozzio
as he plays with Frank Zappa
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTqPoOrDaoA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTqPoOrDaoA)
and..not to forget!
Jon Hiseman, who writes the genial Valentyne Suite
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD3ZJrMzSpw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD3ZJrMzSpw)
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Ulf, I saw Bozzio at teh Zappa Plays Zappa tour a little over a year ago. The old man has still got it!
OO
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After last night's show... Jeff Sipe!
(Message edited by artswork99 on July 11, 2009)
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I saw ZAPPA plays ZAPPA as well _____ glad I did !
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Terry Bozzio What are words for...(when no-one listens anymore...).
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If I had my druthers, Kenny Aronoff. Powerful, rock-solid, what more does a bassist want???
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Free Beer!
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Where's the beer and when do we get paid?
-Jimmy Carl Black
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I thought the beer was the pay!
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...it was for the good ol' Blues Brothers boys...
....keep them doggies movin', RAWHIDE !!
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I actually did a Country gig in a Bar that had a chicken wire cage around the stage ,I think it was in the early to mid 1980's .The replacement substitute drummer in that band was awful!. Once in a while he would drop a beat in 4/4 ;so I used to refer to him as the Three Lagged Dog. He was buddies with the leader of the band so he was hard to get rid of .I remember waiving my Bass neck up and down with the beat when that happened so that he could fall back into sync. The only reason that I keep playing in that band was because the leader had good connections and good gigs _ for the most part anyway, and I was single at the time and would meet some really nice Ladies from time to time at those gigs .
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Good story,
...and thanks for bringing the topic back to drummers ; )
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Joe Craven.
Peter
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I would have to go with Sly Dunbar..
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Pat Sharkey. Enough said, I rest my case.
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heh heh
he said dream dummer not drummer!
slip?
I think not!
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Spose - It was a honest type-o mistake....
mmrmrmrmrnrnrmrmrmrmrmrmrmrmrmrmrmrmrmrmrmrmrmrmr
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I'd have to pick Mickey Hart + Bill Kreutzmann
(Message edited by cosmic on July 18, 2009)
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Dream drummers are:
Carmine Appice and Jeff Davis of BluesFire(http://club.alembic.com/Images/393/69760.jpg)
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Hi Joe, welcome to the board!
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I was on the road with The Toys working with a drummer similar in style and fire as Vinnie. It was a gas, loved every minute of it.
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Akira Jimbo from Casiopea
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Tom Ardolino, NRBQ. The guy has a backbeat that cannot be stopped.
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I've been lucky enough to play with some really tight, good drummers. But also unlucky to have sat in with some who couldn't count through breaks.
To answer the question of style, the wierd thing is I CAN'T PLAY S**T with a bad drummer. I need a drummer with a tight syncopated style. As mentioned above Stewart Copeland would fit.
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Jeff Sipe (aka Apt. Q258)
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Since we are talking about drummers that suit our own style, here are drummers that I would like to play with:
Ringo Starr. He isn't flashy but I remember reading an article where Paul McCartney called him the best time keeper he had ever played with. On that same note, (no pun intended), Paul's long time drummer Abe Laboriel Jr. More flashy than Ringo but also knows when to sit back and just keep the beat.
Kenny Arnoff. The guy has played with everyone for obvious reasons.
Don Brewer (Grand Funk Railroad, Bob Seger) He can play any style and is very smooth.
Joey Kramer. Steven Tyler and Joe Perry get all the attention but Kramer is the best musician in the band. By the way, isn't it about time that Tom Hamilton starts getting recognized for being one of rock's best bass players?
Steve Smith. He rose to fame with Journey but is recognized as one of the best jazz and session drummers in the world.
Phil Collins and Ginger Baker.
Neil Peart. His style wouldn't really match well with mine but hes is one of the best drummers in the world.
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Carmine Appice or Corky Laing
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Anyone who has good meter, a sense of pocket, groove and dynamics and is flexible and willing to adapt to what the band (including me) is doing.
I've been very fortunate thus far as a bassist, I've encountered only one drummer I couldn't get along with - this guy had incredibly poor meter and would push everything. For example, we'd start something at 110 bpm and he'd immediately be off to races - sometimes finishing at around 120-122 bpm. He refused to make eye contact with me (or anyone else) and just stared straight ahead while continuing to pick up speed as he mechanically executed his parts.
A drummer doesn't need to have perfect meter like a metronome to be good. The really good ones instinctively know when to push a little and when to lay back a little - like breathing along with the music.
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All I know is I'm physically worn out at the end of an evening when I gig with a weak drummer.
It's heaven when you do a pick-up gig and the drummer knows to sync his kick with the bass groove.
Hmmm, wonder what they say about me?
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A drummer who listens. David's last paragraph sums it up well.
I have been fortunate to have worked a lot with the same drummer for ... omg 30 years!
We have great chemistry and as an added bonus he has "written" some of my best bass parts.
We will be developing a song and there is a break for a short bass riff, sometimes I create a well formed piece other times he will say: "You should play bah dah baa daddy did dobah" (sings the riff) and golly gee if it isn't the perfect riff!! ;D
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All I know is I'm physically worn out at the end of an evening when I gig with a weak drummer.
It's heaven when you do a pick-up gig and the drummer knows to sync his kick with the bass groove.
Hmmm, wonder what they say about me?
Boy, isn't this the truth! At the end of the night with a weak drummer I feel like Sisyphus. At the end of the night with a good drummer I feel like I have two more sets to play.
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John Molo
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I like playing with Drummers that know the Basic Drum Rudiments of which there are 40 .
Is that 40 rudiments, or 40 drummers who know them, Wolf? 8)
Peter (who obviously got halfway down Page 1 before realizing it was a necro thread.....)
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... Peter (who obviously got halfway down Page 1 before realizing it was a necro thread.....)
LOL!!
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Peter (who obviously got halfway down Page 1 before realizing it was a necro thread.....)
I did the same thing! (lol)
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I wish I had stopped reading when I realized it was raised from the dead - unfortunately I kept reading and picked up on some old bad vibes, at which point I stopped reading...
The recent posts were nice though!
I realize that what I really need is a drummer who plays in the pocket and who listens. That's not too much to ask, is it? :o
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70s Bill Bruford.
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At the moment, I don't have a bass playing style. Recent evidence suggests that if I keep practicing everyday, perhaps I might have one in another year or two, or three, or some other significant period of time.
I really enjoyed Dave's post here. :)
My bluegrass and oldtyme roots were drum-less, but I've been lucky enough to play with a couple really good drummers along the way. My favorite (if I had to pick one) is a horn player who has double duty in our Christmas Band as a percussionist. He and I are always staged right next to each other, and man, that really helps me... the rest of the band is so far apart that it can be disorienting until the monitors get right.
In this day and time, the cajon is slowly becoming accepted into some traditional music circles too. One of our sidebar groups uses one, and the gal that plays it is like a sister to me. She's also a really good bass player, so we have a very similar sense of timing and where the downbeat is. The lock-in is just as strong as with having a good drummer, from my perspective at least. The other guys in the band often wonder what we're grinning about back there, but the truth is, we're just having so much fun that it's hard not to. :)
Note proximity of the bass player to the 'drummer' in this jam scenario: (yeah, that's us) ;D
*If there was a parenthetical point to my rambling post here, it's that playing with good drummers has helped me to better understand what my 'style' is.
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I'd go with ANIMAL.
:)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qisaGTajtvk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qisaGTajtvk)
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That's a very nice picture of the jam, Gregory.
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Definitely Dennis Chambers...Jack !!!!
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Carmine Appice. If he's not available, then it's Corky Laing
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I think I posted in here before...John Molo would be my top pick
However lately I'm more excited about drummers that know how to groove well and can keep the groove going, that means no fancy rolls, fills or other stuff going on randomly in a song.
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I play various genres of music . In a Grateful Dead genre I would say Bill Kreutzman or Joe Russo . In a Jazz Fusion genre Peter Erskine . For straight Jazz the irreplaceable Buddy Rich . My list continues for other genres of Rock with other drummers as well . There is not just one in that list . :)
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Gerry Brown.