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Connecting => Swap Shop and Wish Lists => Seen on craigslist, eBay, and elsewhere => Topic started by: tmoney61092 on September 08, 2014, 07:44:54 AM

Title: Gorgeous Persuader in the Vector shape!
Post by: tmoney61092 on September 08, 2014, 07:44:54 AM

This shape is super rare and with these woods and awesome aged cream covers is simply gorgeous!
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Alembic-Persuader-Vector-Bass-32-inch-scale-/271600536146?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Alembic-Persuader-Vector-Bass-32-inch-scale-/271600536146?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276)
 
~Taylor

Title: Gorgeous Persuader in the Vector shape!
Post by: jazzyvee on September 08, 2014, 08:48:59 AM

Looks in great condition.
 

Title: Gorgeous Persuader in the Vector shape!
Post by: wookie on September 08, 2014, 09:35:05 AM

Yea, that's a beaut'! In all of my Alembic dorkery I didn't know the vector headstock is the same as the Elan...cool.
 
Semi-unrelated question....where did the name Elan come from and what does it mean??? Anyone?? Bueller? Bueller?

Title: Gorgeous Persuader in the Vector shape!
Post by: wookie on September 08, 2014, 09:35:16 AM

Yea, that's a beaut'! In all of my Alembic dorkery I didn't know the vector headstock is the same as the Elan...cool.
 
Semi-unrelated question....where did the name Elan come from and what does it mean??? Anyone?? Bueller? Bueller?

Title: Gorgeous Persuader in the Vector shape!
Post by: flpete1uw on September 08, 2014, 12:24:52 PM

Yeah, that is a real cool looking Bass.  
I may be off base here but when looking at the great offerings of the pictures it almost looks like there may have been some repaired neck damage? the center line 1/3 down from the head stock is a pronounced line and some wavering a little further down. Another probably non inconsequential point is the line on the Mahogany back. The head stock has some pronounced although cool looking laminates.
 
As always this is what 1 1/2c brings to the table.
Cool looking Bass though
Pete

Title: Gorgeous Persuader in the Vector shape!
Post by: adriaan on September 08, 2014, 02:03:10 PM

I seem to remember that there's a couple of Lotus sports cars that have lent their name to some of the basses - Elan, Europa, Excel.

Title: Gorgeous Persuader in the Vector shape!
Post by: wookie on September 08, 2014, 04:03:06 PM

Adriaan thanks! I would have never figured that out.... I'm poor.
I thought Europa was named after the princess that was kidnapped by Zeus for the last. 20 some years Lol!
 
Could you tell me what Elan means and/ or where it came from from lotus?

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Post by: jalevinemd on September 08, 2014, 05:26:31 PM

I thought Elan had to do with the customer who first specified the body shape.

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Post by: mica on September 08, 2014, 05:32:39 PM

Elan means energy, style, and enthusiasm. It's also a cool Lotus car. When my parents met, my dad was driving a Lotus Europa.

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Post by: edwardofhuncote on September 08, 2014, 05:50:13 PM

I actually knew that... well, the first two anyway, but because I was a car enthusiast a long time ago. (before I discovered bass!) But the third sounds like a very cool story as well... Alembic trivia. =)
 
That Vector body is nice... one of my pals on another forum had a Persuader Vector in really beautiful walnut. Tan (or is that butternut?) pickups? I like 'em, just never seen them.

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Post by: funkyjazzjunky on September 08, 2014, 06:01:44 PM

Ahah
 
I have long wondered about the Alembic - Lotus nomenclature.  
 
VMG

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Post by: cozmik_cowboy on September 09, 2014, 04:26:13 AM

I dunno, Pete - I think the wavering is an optical illusion caused by the grain patterns.  And I'm sure the line on the back is grain.
 
Peter

Title: Gorgeous Persuader in the Vector shape!
Post by: flpete1uw on September 09, 2014, 11:53:36 AM

Thanks Pete,
I've been known to be optically illusued before.  
It's just the line up of the Mahogany marking, wavering, and that neck line seam to aligned. Worth asking, what's the worse that can happen?
 
Pete

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Post by: bsee on September 09, 2014, 11:54:08 AM

As a Persuader the price is a little bit above average, but since it's an unusual shape, I am surprised someone hasn't stepped up. If the auction had a best offer option, someone would probably offer $2K. If I were rolling in dough, I'd pick it up. Looks like a really cool gigging bass.
 
I thought Lotus cars were cool back in the day. I ended up driving the Isuzu sports car for a couple years that had a Lotus-designed suspension. That thing really held the road.

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Post by: adriaan on September 09, 2014, 02:56:29 PM

quote:I thought Elan had to do with the customer who first specified the body shape.
According to the Evolution of Body Shapes (http://www.alembic.com/family/history_bodyshapes.html target=_blank) page, The first Elan was made for a customer in Japan that wanted a very Jazz looking bass (the H in the Elan serial number is for Hojin).

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Post by: gtrguy on September 10, 2014, 05:40:52 PM

That is a pretty bass, though the yellow color cast in the photos is way off what I see in the last ones.

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Post by: jacko on September 11, 2014, 03:37:12 AM

Couple of nice Lotus Europas at the Bo'ness speed hillclimb I was at on Sunday. One in the classics display with the original renault engine and one racing with the later twin-cam. Always been one of my favourite lotus body styles. probably the first 'exotic' I ever saw.
 
Graeme