Shim's Custom Bass

Started by mica, January 18, 2007, 06:57:34 PM

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bassjigga

Shim- I like your top. Remember it will pop more with finish. Lookin good!

jlpicard

Mica, Just so Shim doesn't get confused when looking at the photo, the core of my bass is Vermilion. By the way, I am quite honored that others are using my bass as inspiration for their own designs. Michael

jtussing

Shim, you're going to love this top!

mica

Hi Shim,  Here's a control layout I've come up with for your bass:

 The knobs are in straight lines, and the switches too. On the real thing, the spacing will be even, this mock up is done fairly quickly.   With names so you can see what is what:

   For your reference, everything needs to fit within the backplate area, shaded here:

  This layout lets you use parts that have standard wire lengths. If you ever need a repair part, it won't need to be orderd custom to fit your bass.

mica

I hope I understand correctly that you want us to use all the wood in post 4028.

shim

First, I imagine the not 2-3-2-2 way like your suggestion, but 3-3-3 way.  
 
so,  
1. treble cut/boost - bass cut/boost - master volume
   LED on/off - 3-pos bridge toggle - 3-way neck toggle
   bridge filter - neck filter - pan/blend
 
2. bridge filter - neck filter - master volume
   LED on/off - 3-pos bridge toggle - 3-way neck toggle
   treble cut/boost - bass cut/boost - pan/blend.
 
 
I think the 3-3-3 way look more stabel.  
 
could you make 3-3-3 way??

shim

Yes, I can agree with your selection.  
 
the most important thing, I think, is the position for cut. I believe you and Bob make a good decision for me.  
 
I prefer the grain of picture in post 4026 more, but it is just my taste.
 
Anyway, Is it right to use the first wood in post 4026 for the top??

mica

Something more like this?

the_8_string_king

Mica, I hope I'm not out-of-line here, but I have an idea for Shim's/your consideration.
 
It's very similar to your mock-up in post 4038.
 
Have the two rows of 3 knobs be perfectly parallel; have the 2 middle knobs in each row be slightly farther apart from each other; have the LED switch in the dead center going side to side, and the other 2 toggles centered between the center knobs and the outer knobs on either side; and finally, have the 3 knobs with detents all on the same row.  (Top row =B filter, volume, N filter, bottom row =treble, balance, bass).  I considered something very similar for myself.
 
Like this:
 
..........NECK...............BASS
..........FILT................CONT
..........KNOB...............KNOB
.................................
.......................N..........
.......................Q..........
.................................
......MAST.......................BLEN
......VOLU.........LED.........CONT
......KNOB.......................KNOB
.................................
.......................B..........
.......................Q..........
.................................
..........BRID...............TREB
..........FILT................CONT
..........KNOB..............KNOB
 
The setup would be completely symetrical.
 
Hope you don't mind my sharing this idea with you.

mica

Your idea does not address the output jack, and putting it in line with the switches gets it too crowded towards the edge if I understand your representation.  
 
This is Shim's call. I was trying to understand Shim's request, and so the placement of the controls was based on my understanding of his message.  
 
I am only here to make sure that the control placement is physically possible and the knobs and switches won't interfere with eachother during operation. I may make some gentle suggestions here and there, but in the end, Shim's the one who will be playing this bass, and I will respect his wishes.

shim

Mica, the position of Pan knob is wrong.  
Pan/blend knob is below the master volume.  
 
And, I think the straight array is so strict. I think the incline array is more good.  
 
Or, if Treble cut/boost , 3-way Q bridge toggle, bridge filter are moved higher than your picture, it can be more good.  
 
If I can draw the picture of my electronics and post that, I'll paste my wishes in this page. It's so hard to explain what I want. ;;;;;
 
Anyway, Thanx Mica, And Mark.~~!!!!!

mica

I hope this is more of what you are looking for. I also moved the positions of the filters so the Q switches would be in a logical relationship to them.

Let me know if you like it or if you had something else in mind. If you have a sketch, you can post it here or fax it to me if it's easier (707-523-2935).

shim

Mica, we can discuss about electronics lay-out, with the picture http://www3.alembicguitars.com/img/inst/13465_controlsL.jpg
 
In this picture, the knobs and controls are closer each other, so looks good. I know my bass body is larger than the balanced K body, so there is enough space, but the electronics look good when the knobs and controls are closer each other.  
 
I like http://www3.alembicguitars.com/img/inst/13465_controlsL.jpg , and I can explain what I want, to change the knobs in this picture.
 
       In NN bass  -------> In Shim's custom
 
     bridge volume -------> treble cut/boost
     neck volume   -------> bass cut/boost
     master volume -------> same.
     bridge CVQ    -------> bridge 3-pos Q
     neck CVQ      -------> neck 3-pos Q
     bridge filter -------> same
     neck filter   -------> same
     stero/mono toggle ----> side LED on/off
 
But, Mica, I don't decide the position of Pan/Blend. It can be position of pick-up selector knob or front LED on/off knob in NN bass.
 
So we can have the two option about electronics. Can you draw this two suggestion, so we can look the electronics??

shim

And, Mica, I will tell you about the level of 3-position Q toggle. I will choose between 0/4/8 dB or 0/3/6. As soon as possible, I will tell you about this.

shim

Addition : post number 61
 
Pan/Blend knob is more suitable in postion of Pickup selector in NN bass. So, can you use the point type knob like in NN bass for my Pan/Blend Knob ??